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    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    Considering that the Garlean political structure is a Fascist one, prior to it burning down to the ground, this statement doesn't make sense. That, and political ideologies can exist in fantasy as the framework that drives ideology is often part of the allegorical and derivative aspects of reality (Nanamo, for example, had a period of time when she was espousing comments that were similar to communism or socialism pending how you read them, as she was troubled that there were those who were suffering under the Ul'dahn political structure which is heavily driven by money -- the syndicate is made up of monetarists, the spots on the syndicate are granted based on wealth etc...).

    Garlemald had a regimented society, were absolutely ultra-nationalists that wanted to bring their rule over others, routinely killed those others because they considered them as "savages" and used them in unethical experimentation (some of which is very highlighted in the Weapon storyline) that amounted to just murdering people for the sake of power. They do believe themselves above the rest, otherwise they wouldn't use terms like "savage" to describe anyone who is an "other" to them. There are individuals who are shown to be exceptions in some cases, albeit some of those individuals only became exceptions to that way of thinking after coming to their own conclusions independently of the Empire. There was only one, as far as I recall, claim of an internal political dissent (Maxima, the Populares) and next we hear about them later on, they're being exterminated.

    They're not 1:1 to any real life regime, though it's extremely obvious that they represent them and it's extremely easy to spot the similarities. It's probably one of the most obvious features of the story.
    The Garleans are a empire with an absolute monarch. That is their political system. Fascism is a very specific political ideology, and one that doesn't exist within the world of 14. Your post is a great example of what many other posters have highlighted. You are bringing real world feelings, thoughts and ideologies into a fantasy setting. You are also tying a character one wishes to role play to the actual person themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    The Garleans are a empire with an absolute monarch. That is their political system. Fascism is a very specific political ideology, and one that doesn't exist within the world of 14. Your post is a great example of what many other posters have highlighted. You are bringing real world feelings, thoughts and ideologies into a fantasy setting. You are also tying a character one wishes to role play to the actual person themselves.
    I'd point out the differences between fascism that correlates to Garlemald, especially with regards to how the Emperor frames the reasonings behind what they do, but it's become excessively apparent any words of effort are wasted on you.

    As a final aside, fantasy is derived from somewhere. All human made art, stories, and so forth are derivative in nature. Fantasy does not persist in an ideological vacuum from the real world, to say so is to say stories hold no meaning.
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    Last edited by Alaray; 12-03-2021 at 03:23 AM.