Job(s) you don't main for good reasons?

[Lunalepsy]

Tanks and melees=boring roles

[KizuyaKatogami]

Completely disagree with both of you. White Mage robes are reminiscent of Catholic Church Robes and Shinto Priest robes, Neither of those are Feminine, and Dancer reminds me a lot of a Dervish style (Turkish Men only dance) mixed with other middle eastern dancing styles. So it is very Neutral, more so than many other Jobs. Warriors and Gunblades are just as Stereotypically Feminine as they are Masculine, ie Red Sonja for Warrior, and the Anime Trope of the little girl with the massive gun is a thing, like a seriously common trope. To think a class is Masculine or Feminine is not only sexist, but it diminishes the class fantasy, because you are trying to place it in a fantasy that the job doesn't actually hold. For every Male Gun Tank character I can think of a Magic Girl, or Vampire Girl anime that has the same character but female. For every Male Barbarian Trope there is a female one with a bloody axe. For every Shrine Girl there is a Male Priest doing the same thing, for every girl belly dancing there is a troupe of guys spinning and dancing. Stop thinking so narrow minded, and English Prudish, and realize that Victorian Masculinity isn't the definition used for other cultures and nations.

You’re free to disagree, you’re just objectively wrong

[rewd]

Completely disagree with both of you. White Mage robes are reminiscent of Catholic Church Robes and Shinto Priest robes, Neither of those are Feminine, and Dancer reminds me a lot of a Dervish style (Turkish Men only dance) mixed with other middle eastern dancing styles. So it is very Neutral, more so than many other Jobs. Warriors and Gunblades are just as Stereotypically Feminine as they are Masculine, ie Red Sonja for Warrior, and the Anime Trope of the little girl with the massive gun is a thing, like a seriously common trope. To think a class is Masculine or Feminine is not only sexist, but it diminishes the class fantasy, because you are trying to place it in a fantasy that the job doesn't actually hold. For every Male Gun Tank character I can think of a Magic Girl, or Vampire Girl anime that has the same character but female. For every Male Barbarian Trope there is a female one with a bloody axe. For every Shrine Girl there is a Male Priest doing the same thing, for every girl belly dancing there is a troupe of guys spinning and dancing. Stop thinking so narrow minded, and English Prudish, and realize that Victorian Masculinity isn't the definition used for other cultures and nations.

You contradicted yourself the moment you mentioned class fantasy.

Healers - and generally support roles - are often associated with female characters. It's just a common trope. This is true for Final Fantasy, too.

White Mage especialy has been heavily associated with female characters.
In the Origins port of Final Fantasy, the WHM model is a woman (it's a man for the other jobs). Most of the names you can choose in the Dawn of Souls remake are female name.
In the opening cinematic of the 3D remake of Final Fantasy III, the only female protagonist is selected to showcase a White Mage.
In Final Fantasy IV, the white mages are Rosa and Porom, two female characters. In The After Years you have Leonora, another female character.
In the universe of Final Fantasy VII, Aerith is associated with white magic.
In Final Fantasy IX, the White Magic skillset is exclusive to Garnet and Eiko, two female characters.
In Final Fantasy X, you have Yuna.
In Final Fantasy XII, the only characters that learn Cure and Blindna are Ashe, Penelo and Fran, the only playable female characters.

The main exception to the rule is Minwu, a male white mage from Final Fantasy II.
Seems a bit unbalanced, don't you think?

WHM has been historically associated with a specific sex. A lot of glamour items are more stereotipically feminine, as well as some animations, most notably Assize. It's not sexist to say that some things are more stereotipically masculine or feminine. It is however disingenuous to act as if all of this is in specific players' heads and not a confirmed trend, but go ahead.

[Vahlnir]

To think a class is Masculine or Feminine is not only sexist

Something can be considered feminine or masculine without being considered derogatory. You do know that, right?

[Miles064]

Completely disagree with both of you. White Mage robes are reminiscent of Catholic Church Robes and Shinto Priest robes, Neither of those are Feminine, and Dancer reminds me a lot of a Dervish style (Turkish Men only dance) mixed with other middle eastern dancing styles. So it is very Neutral, more so than many other Jobs. Warriors and Gunblades are just as Stereotypically Feminine as they are Masculine, ie Red Sonja for Warrior, and the Anime Trope of the little girl with the massive gun is a thing, like a seriously common trope. To think a class is Masculine or Feminine is not only sexist, but it diminishes the class fantasy, because you are trying to place it in a fantasy that the job doesn't actually hold. For every Male Gun Tank character I can think of a Magic Girl, or Vampire Girl anime that has the same character but female. For every Male Barbarian Trope there is a female one with a bloody axe. For every Shrine Girl there is a Male Priest doing the same thing, for every girl belly dancing there is a troupe of guys spinning and dancing. Stop thinking so narrow minded, and English Prudish, and realize that Victorian Masculinity isn't the definition used for other cultures and nations.

I assumed I wouldn't have to say this but, when I say masculine and feminine I don't mean male and female. Red sonja is the big amazon redhead in the platekini right? She would just be a more masculine female is all. Roe females in this game have a more masculine build which has no bearing on their personalities while also still clearly looking like a women. Same for the Male elezen looking a bit more feminine. Not Femboy or trap or anything like that, just more feminine is all.

Also big buff amazon waifus are my jam and I hope if female hrothgar get made they are buff like the males. Calling me sexist and prudish seems a bit funny with that in mind though.

edit: Now that I think about it, what are you even on about? Rory Mercury had a feminine build with a masculine fighting style(giant heavy axe with large smashing attacks). You know that you can have aspects of both right? Ky from guilty gear is def leaning towards the feminine side while Sol is more masculine and both are men with no question.

[Maxilor]

I just don't like Melee DPS Classes.

Which is a shame because those are some of the most interesting Job Questlines I hear.

[Naoki34]

I fall asleep when I play DRG, it consists of 2 long combos and some small subtlety.

BLU, this is not a real job for me, we dungeon random sync.

SCH heal with a pet, it's boring.

BRD-MCH, jobs without positioning are boring especially those two, I feel no pleasure.

GNB, it's a light tank that takes less, has almost no regen by itself (useful when the heal is sleeping), not to mention the problem with Superbolid.

SMN, the caster who poses DoT, it's the same feeling as for BRD, for me. I don't like jobs with familiar.

Etc.

[HollyJollyPaca]

Anything involving super complicated rotations cause I got brain capacity of a peanut ahaha

[Galasomeone]

Arguing about whether something is "feminine" or not in a game where many of the male characters themselves look like girls anyway is silly. I say that because in my perception they do. In your perception, it's possibly different. Is it feminine because they wear robes? Do you think any clothing that is sort of like a dress is not masculine? Does it even matter to my own perception? No.

[Maxilor]

Arguing about whether something is "feminine" or not in a game where many of the male characters themselves look like girls anyway is silly. I say that because in my perception they do. In your perception, it's possibly different. Is it feminine because they wear robes? Do you think any clothing that is sort of like a dress is not masculine? Does it even matter to my own perception? No.

Exactly. When I see Gandalf I don't think "Why is that old man wearing a dress?". I think of a mfing wizard!

I DO however wish there were more 'Armored' Healer options. Although just a quick glance at the Eorzea Collection website gives a lot of good armored healer looks that can already be attained in game.