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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by atheistcanuck View Post
    I think it would alienate a lot of players to have their character's biggest accomplishments stop being acknowledged as theirs.
    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    I want my WoL to be remembered as the WoL. I want their accomplishments to be remembered and acknowledged. So yeah, no. I want my WoL to remain the WoL and be remembered for all of their feats by everyone. including the godlike ones.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nayukhuut View Post
    I’m sorry... I don’t mean to demean your idea, but that sounds awful. I put the time into this story, and gotten to love these character and the deeds I performed with them. I’m proud of the things I’ve accomplished over the years. It would drive me absolutely bonkers if all of a sudden people in the game started treating me like how you outlined in your post.

    I LIKE being the Warrior of Light. I do not want to go back to being another adventurer and have my past deeds detached from me. That would just make me super sad.
    Then here's my question for all 3 of you. How are we going to live up to that moniker after we're depowered and the threat is over at the conclusion of Endwalker? It's not going to be possible to, and we all know it's very likely we're going to get depowered of the Blessing and our powers of Azem.

    We'll be living in the shadow of our former power, and we all know what we used to be able to will KEEP being brought up, either by us the players or the NPCs. Would you like to be constantly reminded of things you can no longer do in story? Would you like to be looked down on by NPCs because you were unable to do something you used to be able to do? To be blamed by the NPCs who don't know you're unable to do that storywise anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Then here's my question for all 3 of you. How are we going to live up to that moniker after we're depowered and the threat is over at the conclusion of Endwalker? It's not going to be possible to, and we all know it's very likely we're going to get depowered of the Blessing and our powers of Azem.

    We'll be living in the shadow of our former power, and we all know what we used to be able to will KEEP being brought up, either by us the players or the NPCs. Would you like to be constantly reminded of things you can no longer do in story? Would you like to be looked down on by NPCs because you were unable to do something you used to be able to do? To be blamed by the NPCs who don't know you're unable to do that storywise anymore?
    I mean we GOT depowered of the Blessing in HW and still managed to kick two primals' asses, so it's not like we super need it to WoL stuff.
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    Asterikos Fateweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by atheistcanuck View Post
    I mean we GOT depowered of the Blessing in HW and still managed to kick two primals' asses, so it's not like we super need it to WoL stuff.
    Exactly. A lot of stuff we can do on our own merits. The "blessing" mostly protected us from the Ascians, which after Endwalker won't really be much a threat. We have zero idea how Endwalker is going to handle us and our power levels, but I'm pretty sure we could still live up to it.

    Either way... basically taking the last few years and invalidating it would just feel awful. I put the work into saving these people. I don't want to be remembered as "just a friend."

    Edit: Besides, it's not like we did all this stuff alone anyway. Sure, we're the face of everything, but we've had help every step of the way. I just want to be remembered for who I am, and what I did. Not have people have partial amnesia and just thinking of me as being there, but not being me.
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    Last edited by Nayukhuut; 11-28-2021 at 04:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Then here's my question for all 3 of you. How are we going to live up to that moniker after we're depowered and the threat is over at the conclusion of Endwalker? It's not going to be possible to, and we all know it's very likely we're going to get depowered of the Blessing and our powers of Azem.

    We'll be living in the shadow of our former power, and we all know what we used to be able to will KEEP being brought up, either by us the players or the NPCs. Would you like to be constantly reminded of things you can no longer do in story? Would you like to be looked down on by NPCs because you were unable to do something you used to be able to do? To be blamed by the NPCs who don't know you're unable to do that storywise anymore?
    Nothing is saying we won't still have the powers of our Seat, powers we pretty much had on our own merits anyway. It isn't like they can make us not Azem because that is who our soul originally was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Nothing is saying we won't still have the powers of our Seat, powers we pretty much had on our own merits anyway. It isn't like they can make us not Azem because that is who our soul originally was.
    We could lose the crystal, but I hope we don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    and we all know it's very likely we're going to get depowered of the Blessing and our powers of Azem.
    Why? /10char
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    Asha Valith
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Then here's my question for all 3 of you. How are we going to live up to that moniker after we're depowered and the threat is over at the conclusion of Endwalker? It's not going to be possible to, and we all know it's very likely we're going to get depowered of the Blessing and our powers of Azem.

    A lot of people overstate how powerful the Warrior of Light is. We're certainly powerful, but like... Estinien and Raubahn can stand up to us, Zenos is likely more powerful given we've never beat him in an one on one fight yet, and all the Scions are able to keep up with us. If we were AD&D characters, we'd be like 11th level. Vastly more powerful than the average person, but average person is 0th level.
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