FF14 is not made for hardcore players.

[Rinhi]

...yeah ? That's the point.
If this game had no fan it wouldn't have win this.

if it'd have been a neutral jury or magazine that'd have crowned the XIV community the best fanbase, that'd be something wholly different
that's like asking a baker if his bakery is the best - of course he'll say yes, why wouldn't he? parading that the fanbase voted for itself as the best community as some gotcha moment is hilarious

[Aelin_Ashryver]

if it'd have been a neutral jury or magazine that'd have crowned the XIV community the best fanbase, that'd be something wholly different
that's like asking a baker if his bakery is the best - of course he'll say yes, why wouldn't he? parading that the fanbase voted for itself as the best community as some gotcha moment is hilarious

There is no neutral jury, Last of Us II proves that much imo. Whomever they crowned a community would cry foul.

So many people like to tout how sinister the ff community truly is but I have yet to see them give an example of a better community. My time trying wow was not fun, my recent attempts at having some sort of discussion with the souls community and its rampant cheating got me lambasted by trolls and sexists, I get racist, sexist and homophobic abuse in league of legends, CoD same thing, halo same thing, even when I was younger and played Digimon Masters Online there were trolls everywhere. The worst I have had in this game are some overly needy people that insist on following me about and a couple snippy people in some instances. That's it. In over three years. One game of league gets me more abuse than that.

What game community that features the same amount of player interaction is better than ffxiv? A game wherein you will be matched with players not in your own friend circle, what will that random player be like on average? In league they are toxic as all hell, CoD I got constant sexism, Souls players vowed to me they would spend hours attempting to invade my session and get me banned. What do I get in ffxiv if I go do something? A random player that maybe says hello and a gg at the end. Sometimes lovely convo's happen, community interaction in a wider sense is positive. The main source of negativity you could find would be in this forum and forums tend to be where people go to voice their grievances and look for a debate/argument.

[Velnora]

There is no neutral jury, Last of Us II proves that much imo. Whomever they crowned a community would cry foul.

So many people like to tout how sinister the ff community truly is but I have yet to see them give an example of a better community. My time trying wow was not fun, my recent attempts at having some sort of discussion with the souls community and its rampant cheating got me lambasted by trolls and sexists, I get racist, sexist and homophobic abuse in league of legends, CoD same thing, halo same thing, even when I was younger and played Digimon Masters Online there were trolls everywhere. The worst I have had in this game are some overly needy people that insist on following me about and a couple snippy people in some instances. That's it. In over three years. One game of league gets me more abuse than that.

What game community that features the same amount of player interaction is better than ffxiv? A game wherein you will be matched with players not in your own friend circle, what will that random player be like on average? In league they are toxic as all hell, CoD I got constant sexism, Souls players vowed to me they would spend hours attempting to invade my session and get me banned. What do I get in ffxiv if I go do something? A random player that maybe says hello and a gg at the end. Sometimes lovely convo's happen, community interaction in a wider sense is positive. The main source of negativity you could find would be in this forum and forums tend to be where people go to voice their grievances and look for a debate/argument.

It's not that other game communities are better. It's how people promote this game under this light of "purity", when they themselves are often the exact opposite. Hence the "Great community, btw".

Especially when taking into account draconian ToS. It just makes people question the sincerity of others niceness. Is it genuine; or for fear of being punished if you act out.

I've been in FC's where discord is used exclusively, to circumvent any risk of infractions.