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  1. #81
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    Enemy damage output NEEDS to be scaled up a tad in DF to pull healers out of this "guess i'll DPS now" hell they are in. Otherwise you are going to see healer less...and less in DF out of shear boredom.
    Increasing the randomness and incoming damage is one of the way to make healing more engaged, but we all know the Sylphies job dev will never do that. They literally trap themselves with this rigid encounter design vs job 'design'.
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  2. #82
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Bumping up incoming damage in dungeons? Oh yay. Then I'll get to cast Glare 280 times instead of 300, problem solved!
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  3. #83
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    Sqwall's Avatar
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post

    Healers and tanks are harder to find than DPS because people don't like responsibilities, just like... In any MMO, ever. Healers are also boring, although the main reason is still the perceived responsibility.
    People don't like responsibility....where are you getting this stuff? You imply that this game has literally no meaning and we don't have to play it all because we don't like responsibility.....WHAT? The very reason WHY I que as a healer...is to heal...THAT'S MY RESPONSIBLITY! The tank dies...I'm responsible! Not the tank...not the DPS...ME the healer....

    You must have played some pretty BAD MMO's if the healer hates healing or the tank hates tanking....sheesh

    Your confusing my boredom with your definition of laziness... It's not my fault that I can heal/throw cards/and toss out some DPS exceptionally well to the point where I'm bored. Then turn around and tell me "just don't que as healer". That's just conflating the issue since every healer could do the same thing...because screw being helpful and responsible.
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  4. #84
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    rewd's Avatar
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    Tolo Rewd
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    Spriggan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    People don't like responsibility....where are you getting this stuff? You imply that this game has literally no meaning and we don't have to play it all because we don't like responsibility.....WHAT? The very reason WHY I que as a healer...is to heal...THAT'S MY RESPONSIBLITY! The tank dies...I'm responsible! Not the tank...not the DPS...ME the healer....

    You must have played some pretty BAD MMO's if the healer hates healing or the tank hates tanking....sheesh

    Your confusing my boredom with your definition of laziness... It's not my fault that I can heal/throw cards/and toss out some DPS exceptionally well to the point where I'm bored. Then turn around and tell me "just don't que as healer". That's just conflating the issue since every healer could do the same thing...because screw being helpful and responsible.
    An important factor as to why people don't like to play healer and tank is because of the responsiblity. You play healer, so what I said doesn't apply to you. It's not that hard. You shouldn't use bold type to highlight sentences if you miss the point to begin with.
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  5. #85
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    Mike Arklight
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    White Mage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    People don't like responsibility....where are you getting this stuff? You imply that this game has literally no meaning and we don't have to play it all because we don't like responsibility.....WHAT? The very reason WHY I que as a healer...is to heal...THAT'S MY RESPONSIBLITY! The tank dies...I'm responsible! Not the tank...not the DPS...ME the healer....

    You must have played some pretty BAD MMO's if the healer hates healing or the tank hates tanking....sheesh

    Your confusing my boredom with your definition of laziness... It's not my fault that I can heal/throw cards/and toss out some DPS exceptionally well to the point where I'm bored. Then turn around and tell me "just don't que as healer". That's just conflating the issue since every healer could do the same thing...because screw being helpful and responsible.
    Unless you make 90% of the world population then it you would have been correct.
    HOWEVER that is not the case and people dont play said roles is infact because they dont like the responsibility or more accurately the pressure and extra requirements healers and tanks have hence why in parties you will have overabundance dps to pick from(not just different jobs but many people as well) and barely find a random healer/tank.
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  6. #86
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    Sqwall's Avatar
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonGunner View Post
    Unless you make 90% of the world population then it you would have been correct.
    HOWEVER that is not the case and people dont play said roles is infact because they dont like the responsibility or more accurately the pressure and extra requirements healers and tanks have hence why in parties you will have overabundance dps to pick from(not just different jobs but many people as well) and barely find a random healer/tank.
    So are you saying healing is hard that's why people don't que? Pressure and extra requirements?
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    So are you saying healing is hard that's why people don't que? Pressure and extra requirements?
    and again we have the white knight player trying to twist words to fit his illusion that "everything is fine" meme, so shocking it repeats right?

    nope that is not what was said.
    people are not you and they find healing and tanking scary without playing said roles in ff14 or in any mmo in general and also that they prefer to focus on their own character then taking care of the party or scared to be blamed for a wipe and wasting people time as usually players do for healer and tank roles in any mmo game that existed so far.

    so while you have said bias to healer roles, it doesn't help that ff14 healers are boring and leveling them is so numb minding boring it basically torture at this point cause u stuck at a dungeon/solo duty for 5+min pressing 1 button the entire time for a SUBSCRIBED MONTLY GAME but also you have the DPS jobs that have way more interesting rotations and also have some more responsibilities then healers have like buffing the allies and debuffing the enemies, hack you even have a dps caster with better raise then us cause he can do like 2-3 in less then 30 seconds and with instant cast without waiting 8s per cast
    so again i will repeat a sentence from before: "you will have overabundance dps to pick from(not just different jobs but many people as well) and barely find a random healer/tank".
    i hope this time you got the meaning of that said sentence.
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    Last edited by CrimsonGunner; 11-24-2021 at 04:42 AM.

  8. #88
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    Ya Ni
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    Sage Lv 90
    To be truthful, I would do dailies as anything but a tank or healer most time due to me not wanting to do the extra work of making the tank stay alive and doing the dodge/tanking of monster spells, when i can just sit back and toss out dmg easily.
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  9. #89
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    Belpheb Val-de-ris
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    So are you saying healing is hard that's why people don't que?
    I'm pretty sure what rewd said is that fewer people queue as healers because they don't like the responsibility
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  10. #90
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    responsibility and difficulty are two completely different things. If any of those tanxiety or healer axious players tried tank or healer they'd see just how easy they are
    and probably dip straight back to their dps jobs because healer "rotation" is unfit for anyone with half a brain to realise that all they will be doing for levels 4-80 is pressing their nuke key and occasionally a dot
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