I appreciate Square Enix supporting LGBT rights in FFXIV.

[Izscha]

I miss the time when you see two girls or two boys supporting each other, you see them as friends of each other. Nowadays, everything seems needing to have some sort of hidden political messages in people's eyes.

Friendship ? What's that any relationship between 2 ppl is obviously romance / sex related.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Falling prey to the troll but...

A lot of people in this thread seem to forget that for many non-MSQ quests SE purposely leaves a lot up to interpretation of the player. That, in my opinion, is an amazing way to handle it. All off the necessary information to bring the story to completion is given and small, personal details are left up to the player to interpret.

This isnt the case for too many though. For a lot of side npc's they specifically say whether theyre gay or bi or what have you, again the wanderer's palace npc's come to mind. There arent many signs pointing to the girls as being in anything other than a close friendship, bonded by the similar events both had to endure. If they were romantically involved, i feel SE wouldnt beat around the bush as they really havent done so that much in the past.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

I miss the time when you see two girls or two boys supporting each other, you see them as friends of each other. Nowadays, everything seems needing to have some sort of hidden political messages in people's eyes.

We do... I mean, no one ships Lyse with Minfillia or Y'shtola.

[Yhisa]

Wait what??? Its just a rainbow made of aethet???

I mean when u look at the irl elemental tree that was made decades ago u dont think

"Hey look they supporting lgbt community"

Earth = yellow/brown
Fire = red / orange
Ice = white / blue
Water = blue
Darkness = black
Light = white/gold
Nature = green/browns

I mean they just colours on a stick...that shows the elements in a rainbow

Not once did i think it as "they supporting the lgbt community" even once....

Now forcing their hand with male viera + female hrothgar....is supporting them

Also ryne and gaia can be seen either way, and i rather keep EVERY npc sexualitly out of the game and legit let the playerbase themselves decide it for them in their "own" fantasy story

What people fail to realise, i prefer to see ryne and gaia as friends....am i wrong in thinking that?? No....is it wrong for others to push a sexualitly onto that npc because "they" like that....YES!

I never liked this force sexuality in games....they suppose to be fun and up to the "individual" player how they see their favourite npc....but what i dislike is the playerbase need to slap on labels on everything which just ruins the imagination of those who wanted their npc to be like

So stop selfishly thinking for yourself and double check first....is it ok to force YOUR opinion how OTHERS see that npc

To some people

Ryne and gaia is lesbian
Ryne and gaia is friends

Which one is right??? Answer NONE cause no one knows and should not "break" the fandom that others see them as...its just outright wrong and is also against "lgbt" code of "you dont force a sexualitly"

Which currently alot of the lgbt is consently doing today

Declaration
*This isnt an attack post, this is a post seeing the thread from a gamer point of perspective, and my own opinion how the "NPC" should not have sexuality to please both sides of the debate in question*

[Eris4494]

There childern I wouldn't start spreading rumors or Square Enix might get made. There strict about anything that has to do with children.

[EaraGrace]

I miss the time when you see two girls or two boys supporting each other, you see them as friends of each other. Nowadays, everything seems needing to have some sort of hidden political messages in people's eyes.

How revealing is it to think including non heterosexual couples ina game is political statement. Really telling on yourself there

[Alestorm]

How revealing is it to think including non heterosexual couples ina game is political statement. Really telling on yourself there

It's a pendulum that swings both ways, we've hit a point where people no longer can see friendships in most forms of media and only seem to want to see something more than it most likely is. Look at Animal Crossing, 2 NPCs admit they work together and even refer to each other as partners and yet all people seem to see is "OMG THEY'RE SUPER GAY!!1!". It's just shallow and the highest form of grabbing a straws.

[Izscha]

How revealing is it to think including non heterosexual couples ina game is political statement. Really telling on yourself there

You might be clueless about the world we live in if you do believe that it's not a political statement of any sort.
The world isn't the US nor the western world which is a minority in it when it comes down to numbers, and there was and there will have a LOT of debate about it in the years to come.
Like it or not doesn't change much about this issue either, and being aggresive towards those who are aware of that doesn't help at all, but w/e it's pretty common nowadays to have this kind of comment especially in this english-speaking world.

[Momo_Kozuki]

How revealing is it to think including non heterosexual couples ina game is political statement. Really telling on yourself there

Because that is exactly what this thread is doing: make everything look like they have some kind of political message. A rainbow crystal is not necessarily a LGBT+ promotion. Two girls becoming close friends and risk their lives for each other is not necessary a gay relationship. I doubt such things going through the head of the writers when they develop the story, and it is just the OP thinks everything with rainbow is a message for the sake of LGBT+.



Honestly, I don't mind if Ryne and Gaia turn gay and live together happily ever after, but until I see a clear evidence that they are more than just best friends, they are just a pair of best friends in my eyes. You are free to think otherwise.

[Izscha]

Because that is exactly what this thread is doing: make everything look like they have some kind of political message. A rainbow crystal is not necessarily a LGBT+ promotion. Two girls becoming close friends and risk their lives for each other is not necessary a gay relationship. I doubt such things going through the head of the writers when they develop the story, and it is just the OP thinks everything with rainbow is a message for the sake of LGBT+.



Honestly, I don't mind if Ryne and Gaia turn gay and live together happily ever after, but until I see a clear evidence that they are more than just best friends, they are just a pair of best friends in my eyes. You are free to think otherwise.

This.

Same, you're free to think and believe whatever you want BUT you have no right to push on others what only you believe.
As long as you keep that to yourself and dont talk about it as the truth and that everyone must believe it too, i won't have any problem with it.
We have no proof whatsoever about that, and we dont need it it's open to everyone to believe what they want about it, i see them as friends and nothing more based on i've seen, you're free to disagree but i wont push it to you that they're friend and you must think they are, so dont try to push what you believe on me.