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  1. #41
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    Miracle_Diva's Avatar
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    Burning Winter
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    Cerberus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    And here we are, in the wonderful world of FFXIV where healers can raise people whenever we want to. Especially if it's an Alliance Raid where we can literally just throw bodies at the boss until it dies.

    Puppet's Bunker is an interesting one where the "final" boss isn't a final boss at all. It's a gateway boss that doesn't do anything special. To survive all you need to do is follow the group. Then after it's dead everyone has to watch the actual final boss cutscene, so being forced into that fight early doesn't do much at all.

    Contrary to your opinion *30 seconds* of not doing anything is an easy way to exhaust people's patience especially if it's a raid we've been grinding for months if not years. One person does not get to hold up that many other people. I still occasionally see Puppet's Bunker in roulettes and when it comes to that I just pull regardless of my role. It's objective truth that it is not the final boss.

    If I'm a healer, I can easily keep myself alive if not drag a tank into the fight and get them to do their job. If I'm on melee I have bloodbath, and if I'm a caster I have shields and Vercure. Of course, if I get that raid as a tank I don't need anything special to survive and can carry on as normal. The bottom line is that moments that take people out of the action in between fights need to be kept as short as possible. This is content we spam to get gear from and in so doing we allow the new people a chance to clear it the first time.
    "30 seconds" was just an example.
    I'm sorry, but if you have no patience to wait for others, you shouldn't do group content or should just stick to playing with friends/fc only.

    The duality of this community never stops to amaze me. Some people are fine with dragging an afk through the entire duty, but they won't wait for others to finish their cutscene.
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  2. #42
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    And here we are, in the wonderful world of FFXIV where healers can raise people whenever we want to. Especially if it's an Alliance Raid where we can literally just throw bodies at the boss until it dies.

    Puppet's Bunker is an interesting one where the "final" boss isn't a final boss at all. It's a gateway boss that doesn't do anything special. To survive all you need to do is follow the group. Then after it's dead everyone has to watch the actual final boss cutscene, so being forced into that fight early doesn't do much at all.

    Contrary to your opinion *30 seconds* of not doing anything is an easy way to exhaust people's patience especially if it's a raid we've been grinding for months if not years. One person does not get to hold up that many other people. I still occasionally see Puppet's Bunker in roulettes and when it comes to that I just pull regardless of my role. It's objective truth that it is not the final boss.

    If I'm a healer, I can easily keep myself alive if not drag a tank into the fight and get them to do their job. If I'm on melee I have bloodbath, and if I'm a caster I have shields and Vercure. Of course, if I get that raid as a tank I don't need anything special to survive and can carry on as normal. The bottom line is that moments that take people out of the action in between fights need to be kept as short as possible. This is content we spam to get gear from and in so doing we allow the new people a chance to clear it the first time.
    Thankfully, at least on my DC, your mentality is a rarity.

    Bunker: "Hey we got cs? Yep, we got cs. Okay we'll wait"

    Tower: "Hey we got cs? Yep, we got cs. Okay we'll wait"

    Then someone usually does a Manderville dance and then everyone starts doing a Manderville dance.

    We're all there for our coins or gear drops or whatever as well, but we all also know a minute or two to be polite doesn't hurt us.
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  3. #43
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    weebtext's Avatar
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    Teki Suto
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    Siren
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    If the person watching the cutscene doesn't complain, it's a non-issue.
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  4. #44
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    InfinityLibrarian's Avatar
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    Rum Chan
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Yes, let's punish everyone else playing the game by forcing them to watch. That didn't go horribly for MSQ Roulette at all. Not even a quarter of the number of players that did it before this change do it anymore.
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  5. #45
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    Krojack's Avatar
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vibronix View Post
    Also, is it time that SE add a system like in MSQ Queue to make it not possible to pull until everyone has finished cutscenes if at least one person in the group has never seen the cutscene before? Unfortunately, people not being considerate make this something I strongly support.
    Maybe but ONLY if they enabled "auto skip view cutscenes" by default and you can't turn it off.
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  6. #46
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I wonder if people vehemently opposed to waiting for someone to finish a cutscene would be the same with Yoshida in the group; from what I've heard he always watches them.
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    Mortal Fist

  7. #47
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vibronix View Post
    It frustrates to me no end that people will not wait for players new to a duty to finish a cutscene before pulling that final boss. Most of the time it is 1 minute at most. Please, be considerate and allow that person new to the duty to get to truly experience the dramatic entrance of the boss. I know that you personally may not care about the appearance, but for others, it is an enjoyable aspect of the game, and allowing them to do it does not cost you more than a little bit of time while avoiding any upset.

    Also, is it time that SE add a system like in MSQ Queue to make it not possible to pull until everyone has finished cutscenes if at least one person in the group has never seen the cutscene before? Unfortunately, people not being considerate make this something I strongly support.
    I wish I can skip mine.
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  8. #48
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    Wolwosh's Avatar
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    If content is years old, sorry i'm not waiting.
    Most of these instances are a breeze and it doesn't matter there are a few people less.
    Enjoy your cutscene and get in a little bit later.
    I don't get pissy when i'm late to the party and people decided to go on without me
    (4)

  9. #49
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Does anyone have new material anymore, or are people just content to cycle through the same inflammatory talking points ad nauseum?

    I swear we literally had this exact same thread like a month or two ago.

    Endwalker really can't come fast enough.
    No one does. It's just recycled complaining that occasionally needs at least five threads about it. I'm surprised no one has posted a "Mentors in this game are as friendly as the entire JoJo series is to dogs." post this week. Let alone another quip about how unfair the housing system is even though most of us know that the system is going to be changed come 6.1.
    (4)

  10. #50
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 57
    Do new dungeons as a Tank or Healer.

    Watch the cutscene as long as you want. *Evil Laugh*
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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