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  1. #41
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Tbh I'm surprised nobody is recommending BRD. It's straightforward & easy if you give yourself the right setup.
    You might assume BRD is easy at low levels, but it gets a lot to keep track of. You can get too distracted to refresh dots, clip procs, not allow Pitch Perfect to charge before using it. You have to keep a song up and not use Apex Arrow too early or too late. Not to mention all the procs and weaving.

    But since it is just one GCD that you press most of the time, maybe.
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  2. #42
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Summoner would like a word with you.
    SMN is considered easy by high level players.

    The sheer amount of double weaving in SMN and watching for actions to come up makes it a much more complex Job than RDM, even though it has a big window of unrestricted movement. The OP has said they have ADHD issues and since watching dots and watching timers is a learned skill I don't think it's easier in any case than RDM for what the OP is able to do.
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    Last edited by Floortank; 11-17-2021 at 10:26 AM.

  3. #43
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    That's fair.

    I don't consider 100% DoT uptime part of the class challenge, that's my bad.
    It isn't all that challenging from where you are, but this is a major challenge for new BRDs.

    I tank and heal a lot of duties and I'd say 3 out of 5 BRDs don't even apply their dots, much less refresh them with Iron Jaws--especially when they're new. Watching dots is a a learned skill and it takes a lot of extra concentration if you have ADHD, which I do, which is how I know the OP would probably struggle here.
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  4. #44
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    Erika Chevalier
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    BRD is definitely not the answer here. Keeping up with your songs and each of their buffs along with your oGCDs, triggered effects, procs sometimes, not other times, support abilities, etc. It is not easy and a mediocre BRD is worse than a bad DNC or MCH.

    MCH is probably the easiest DPS in the game, in my opinion, followed up by DNC, both of which are ranged and do not have cast bars. I don't think the abilities themselves are what make a class easy or hard, but the circumstances in which you can continue using them. Cast bars in general make a class harder by default because there are mechanics that make you.... move. And if you are learning, you will not know how to efficiently cast without being in circles. We may find it easy, but a new player may not. Melee also makes a class harder, because you have a very limited range to actually do things, and must manage that range (and possibly positionals) which can often require more fight knowledge than being at range.

    BRD was my first dps back in 2.x because it was easier then than now, even.

    I find SAM to be rather easy but it is incredibly structured and sort of based more around completing a specific order of abilities in a tight timeframe where mistakes punish you by costing you further time in trying to recover from it (ie, not getting a seal by accidentally not completing a combo).

    MCH is the meme streamer choice since you can have medium/high dps relative to everyone else with minimal effort. DNC is easy but you have to pay attention to the procs and know how to use your support abilities effectively.

    Overall, I really think MCH is the easiest. I use MCH for farming mats and just about nothing else, because it's hecking boring to play.
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  5. #45
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    Lexis's Avatar
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    Character
    Lu'kas Steinfheld
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    As a fellow newbie, I've tried Red Mage, Machinist and Ninja at 70+ and some others at varying levels and my pick for easiest would be Machinist. The ability to continue DPSing while moving is a big plus in terms of 'forgiveness' and the rotation is fairly straightforward. It also has a lower button count compared to some of the other classes which make the learning curve all the easier.

    Perhaps its simplicity may get tedious over time and you'll find yourself craving a greater challenge, but that's the beauty of FFXIV and its multi-job system. As for myself, I'm still loving my little Machinist and taking it as my main into Endwalker. People can mock the choice all they want, I'm having fun with my newbie class and I'm not a burden to groups trying to figure out overly complicated rotations, so that's all that matters to me ^.^

    Regardless of what you pick, it needs to be fun to you. That alone will push you to hone your skills out of love for the job.
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  6. #46
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    SherlottaEryut's Avatar
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    Character
    Katja Eruyt
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I have 3 suggestions

    MCH - currently levelling this and honestly, I thought it was going to be more complicated. It’s pretty straight forward and does high damage… a lot of the actions are incredibly satisfying. I wish I tried this job sooner!

    DNC - aesthetically pleasing and will be my job I use while doing the MSQ in Endwalker. I love the moves despite it being RNG based, it has handy ‘dash’ actions for a quick get away from AOE so that’s useful in raids.

    RDM - I was so obsessed with Red Mage for a long time. Something is just so appealing about casting white and black magic and occasionally zooming in for some cheeky melee DPS. If you want a good ‘all rounder’ and a job that’s independent, definitely red Mage.
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  7. #47
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    All of them are simple except summoner, which is being reworked soon and is more just punishing than anything.

    Now if you want 'so simple the class basically plays itself', I'd go dancer. I definitely play dancer when I want to turn my brain off.
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  8. #48
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    All of the people recommending MCH should probably add the caveat that you need a pretty low ping to even be physically able to play it correctly, doesn't matter how simple the rotation is.
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  9. #49
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    Character
    Aria Vel
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 34
    Okay, I'm starting with WM and then leveling up to 50/60 on other characters and going into RDM/DNC. How is the other jobs to level? for example in dungeons. only got experience of CNJ so far. My plan was leveling a Thauma until 50 and go RDM. Then either WAR/ARC just to also try all the starting places. Well, i guess it's all about getting into the jobs and it all works out in the end. Just wanted good entry jobs.

    I'm also really thankful for all the advices and response i've gotten. Story have been amazing so far and enjoying the other bits too.
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  10. #50
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Character
    Friel Wyndor
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 97
    While I agree with the suggestions of Dancer and Red Mage, it should be pointed out that you don't unlock Red Mage until Level 50 and Dancer until Level 60, so that doesn't help you very much right now. It could be a while before you get to try out those jobs.

    Personally, I find Ranger/Bard to be a fairly casual job. It's ranged, you can move around freely, all around it is pretty chill. I see some people disagreeing about how playing optimally and upkeeping DoTs and using skills at just the right time can be complicated, but I feel like this topic is not about playing optimally in top-tier content. This job is largely about "If you can push the button, then push the button." There's very little you can screw up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Ninja is the easiest melee.
    OP was just asking for some genuine advice to help them play the game. You don't have to be like this.
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