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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    A little nit-pick when talking about the Pomander of Resolution: There is a very obtuse way to turn your generic characters into Angel Knights in Tactics Ogre (there's also a Recruitable named Angel character in Ogre Battle March of the Black Queen, both your Alignment and Reputation, and probably Charisma, need to be very high up to recruit her). Priests can use the Exorcism spell but Angel Knights also get an innate Exorcism skill in Knight of Lodis (LUCT I believe it just hurts them), which is why Heavenly Judge is used to Banish the Undead in the Nybbeth fight.

    While they're not COMMON in the Ogre Saga, they're part of the underlying Lore and they've appeared in every game, they're just... ricidulously hard to get, ESPECIALLY in the LUCT remake, where you need to turn them into a zombie, then a skeleton knight (IN ONE SPECIFIC FLOOR OF POTD), then into Angel Knight (KoL needs a character to die, get resurrected, have ridiculously high and well-rounded stats, die AGAIN, then finally resurrect AGAIN for a chance to be transmigrated into an Angel... or recruit Lobeia when you stumble into her). As to why specifically an angelic Duskwight woman...? I wouldn't know. Maybe as a reference that Angel Knights are usually transmigrated units and most of the time women-exclusive? Lorewise I would agree with the Gelmorran angle, this is mostly out-of-universe.
    Ahh, thank you for the confirmation on that one! The best I could find for fact-checking this one was a friend who'd played the game way back on the Playstation (and very much not getting to POTD in it), and my own experience and research material was a Let's Play and the wiki, so there were some gaps for both of us. We knew about the existence of angels, but we couldn't really piece together actual connections beyond 'they exist in both, I guess'.

    In reviewing things again with some proper search terms, though, I do still think the Gelmorran angle makes more sense. For a simple reason of actual writing logic: they deliberately named it Kuribu, a term from elsewhere in FFXIV (a very nearby 'elsewhere', too), despite the Ogre series providing immediately understandable and inconspicuous names; we wouldn't bat an eye at them calling it 'Angel Knight' or something. Rooting it in a very specific part of FFXIV was a conscious choice.

    EDIT: I will say, the fact we're specifically talking about the angels does give me some reassurance I got everything else about Tactics Ogre mostly right; you seem to be the Tactics Ogre Knower around these parts, so I feel like if I tripped up anywhere else you'd have said!
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 11-15-2021 at 05:39 PM.