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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    What I find really interesting about them, even though it's somewhat mundane in a fantasy setting, is that all of them seem to be able to fly without wings. The ones in Amaurot also teleported into the location using an Ascian teleportation style void-esque animation. That may be because Emet was placing them before us, as they were recreations based on his memories. But I'd think the kind of guy who makes as detailed simulacra of his home and its most critical point wouldn't mar such a detail.
    It has been implied that the Ascians use a distinct form of teleportation magick that sends them through the rift between as opposed to the aetherial sea, so that could further imply that some of the terminus beasts are also coming from somewhere in the rift...which would still further line up with the minstrel's song claiming we would shine our light there at journey's end.

    Considering that we've got places as unusual as Pandemonium buried within the world's depths, I would not be surprised if there's some realm between corporeal and aetherial that the beasts are coming from and I'm hoping where the post-apocalyptic looking dungeon takes place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It has been implied that the Ascians use a distinct form of teleportation magick that sends them through the rift between as opposed to the aetherial sea, so that could further imply that some of the terminus beasts are also coming from somewhere in the rift...which would still further line up with the minstrel's song claiming we would shine our light there at journey's end.

    Considering that we've got places as unusual as Pandemonium buried within the world's depths, I would not be surprised if there's some realm between corporeal and aetherial that the beasts are coming from and I'm hoping where the post-apocalyptic looking dungeon takes place.
    Just think, Zenos became capable of that with an artifical Echo too. What kind of abominations could an ancient doomsday cult have put into motion with all that ancient splendor and power.
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    Man, I knew this thread would grow because of excitement of the coming expansion but never thought it still continues to this size. Alot of people wanting answers for all of their own questions.

    These are what I could roughly gather as part of what the general consensus thinks will be present in Endwalker (6.0) or some interesting thoughts/facts left by others:
    • The Sharlayan-Amaurot connection is there
    • I didn't know that before the founding of "Scions of the 7th Dawn", 1.0 didn't introduce all of the supposed members of the Circle of Knowing (with Louisoix as its leader, it's supposed to have 12 members). Y'shtola, Yda Hext (the original one), Papalymo, Thancred, Urianger, Moenbryda and Rammbroes (he is the one from the Crystal Tower raid) are who we know about. Was this fact (missing Circle members) forgotten by the writers or will they explain it in this expansion?
    • The benchmark trailer showed an enemy in Garlemald that decimated alot of the alliance and then WoL using Passage of Arms to defend against this enemy's beam. The enemy in question looked too similar to Omega. I wonder if Omega and Alpha will even have role in Endwalker?
    • Someone noted that some of the Terminus Beasts in the benchmark looked similar to some monsters from Eureka
    • There is the fact that Emet's avatar, that we know of, was a clone of his old mortal emperor body. We might not necessarily have something to do with his clones but what about the cloning facility?
    • Some have the same thought as me: The scene that we saw with Lahabrea being attacked by us together with our allies might be repeated again but without Hydaelyn the Primal's presence. A call back/bookend kind of thing.
    I have another speculation on my mind. Our last big battle against a mighty lone opponent will take place or something of large significance will happen, it will be in or close to Old Sharlayan. As to why I came to that thought, it would be because everywhere close to the starting point (region/city) of the content/expansion, there often happens something very big close to the end.
    • ARR - Thanalan/Ul'dah - Gaius' castrum/Raubahn's weight loss event(just my headcanon or rather confirmed? that WoL's starting point would have been Ul'dah according to the EW launch trailer)
    • HW - Ishgard - on the bridge we fought Nidhogg
    • StB - Gyr Abania - Shinryu-Zenos fusion and Eli-Zenos duel
    • ShB - Lakeland/Crystarium - Eli-WoL
    The writers seem to like bookends when it comes to the big fights of the contents like the one I mentioned about Lahebrea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It has been implied that the Ascians use a distinct form of teleportation magick that sends them through the rift between as opposed to the aetherial sea, so that could further imply that some of the terminus beasts are also coming from somewhere in the rift...
    Maybe, but keep in mind we've often seen Ascians teleport while embodied, and it's been stated that travel through the Rift while possessing a body is practically unheard of. As far as the terminus beasts go, I wouldn't be surprised if they were literally Voidsent somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    Maybe, but keep in mind we've often seen Ascians teleport while embodied, and it's been stated that travel through the Rift while possessing a body is practically unheard of. As far as the terminus beasts go, I wouldn't be surprised if they were literally Voidsent somehow.
    *glances over at the Chrysalis fight that we traveled into the rift in, along with Minfilia, following after Nabriales, with all of our bodies intact*

    *Glances at getting called to the First in Shadowbringers*

    *Glances at Seat of Sacrifice Rift intermission*

    Y-yeah... practically unheard of.

    For real though, think KageTokage is talking about their purple pocket dimension, rather than the Rift that we crossed to get to The First.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    Maybe, but keep in mind we've often seen Ascians teleport while embodied, and it's been stated that travel through the Rift while possessing a body is practically unheard of. As far as the terminus beasts go, I wouldn't be surprised if they were literally Voidsent somehow.
    There's two different rifts; the rift between the shards/Source and the rift between the corporeal and aetherial realm that the Ascians have been using as a safe haven to recuperate within as well to meet in secret.

    Considering that Nabriales casually yanked Minfilia into the latter using a void portal (And we subsequently followed him), the restriction only applies to the former, plus it seems like we're physically going to cross into the aetherial sea from there (Judging from that crystalline bridge stretching out into the sea from the distinctive purple stone crystal of the rift)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    There's two different rifts; the rift between the shards/Source and the rift between the corporeal and aetherial realm that the Ascians have been using as a safe haven to recuperate within as well to meet in secret.
    And neither should be confused with the Interdimensional Rift, which is the space between Final Fantasy universes, and is how Gilgamesh got to Eorzea.

    It's unclear if this is the same Interdimensional Rift that we entered for the Omega raids, you can make arguments either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    As far as the terminus beasts go, I wouldn't be surprised if they were literally Voidsent somehow.
    The Sound / Final Days / Terminus beasts predate the Void; that doesn't make logical sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    And neither should be confused with the Interdimensional Rift, which is the space between Final Fantasy universes, and is how Gilgamesh got to Eorzea.

    It's unclear if this is the same Interdimensional Rift that we entered for the Omega raids, you can make arguments either way.
    I'm not really convinced that the Rift (IE Source/Shards Rift) isn't the multiversal FF Interdimensional Rift. Firstly, because it is literally a rift between dimensions, which allows access to parallel timelines. And secondly, because it's Omega that provides the knowledge needed to traverse it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    The Sound / Final Days / Terminus beasts predate the Void; that doesn't make logical sense.
    They predate the Thirteenth. That doesn't necessarily mean they predate the Void. You know, the real one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    I'm not really convinced that the Rift (IE Source/Shards Rift) isn't the multiversal FF Interdimensional Rift. Firstly, because it is literally a rift between dimensions, which allows access to parallel timelines. And secondly, because it's Omega that provides the knowledge needed to traverse it.
    Yeah, it might be something like how the Source and the Shards are very locationally nearby each other in a little sub-network, while if you shoot further out then you end up in Spira or Ivalice Games Ivalice.

    Unfortunately, Gilgamesh isn't answering my calls, so I can't tell if the one guy that's definitely made the trip can say if we're right.
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