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  1. #11
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Scholar’s biggest issue at least thematically is that it doesn’t really have a consistent identity across it’s kit. It’s ‘fine’ (art of war aside) but it just seems a bit confused in places.

    Big +1 on more emphasis on fairy actions too, that aspect of the job is wasted. Lazy =(
    It seems the Damage spells are getting a bit more consistent, now that AoWII gets new visuals closer to the pearlescent runes that Broil III, Broil IV and Biolysis have. Energy Drain still has the old look of the blood red injection which I guess fits thematically with a life-steal ability.

    Healing spells tend to hover around the lime-green hues, with sometimes iridiscent blue or yellowish glows. Succor and Adloquium have these red circles of runes around the grimmoire when casting, that Recitation seems to take inspiration from-

    Attack spells have a pearly sky-blue coloration while healing spells are green. Both have highlights of red runes- or reddish effects around them.

    Chain Stratagem is an outlier, with a very distinct "Data scan" almost cybernetic aspect to it.
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    Tolo Rewd
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    It seems the Damage spells are getting a bit more consistent, now that AoWII gets new visuals closer to the pearlescent runes that Broil III, Broil IV and Biolysis have. Energy Drain still has the old look of the blood red injection which I guess fits thematically with a life-steal ability.

    Healing spells tend to hover around the lime-green hues, with sometimes iridiscent blue or yellowish glows. Succor and Adloquium have these red circles of runes around the grimmoire when casting, that Recitation seems to take inspiration from-

    Attack spells have a pearly sky-blue coloration while healing spells are green. Both have highlights of red runes- or reddish effects around them.

    Chain Stratagem is an outlier, with a very distinct "Data scan" almost cybernetic aspect to it.
    I wouldn't call Stratagem an outlier, it fits very well with the damage spells, especially Biolysis and AoW II which could all be abilities from the same family.
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  3. #13
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Short answer is yes. SCH is not a very flashy healer at all.

    Their LB3 animation is really good. It's not as blinding as AST, and the SCH interacts with Seraph. I also really like Consolation, and the animation for Broil is my favorite out of the healer ST spells. I really enjoy how the SCH basically makes missiles come out of their codex.

    Their AF gear has also been kind of meh, but there have been some pieces here and there that really work, and they have the best skirt in the entire game.

    I guess there is good and bad, just like with any other job. If they updated some of their animations, you wouldn't hear any gripes from me. I honestly wouldn't mind if SCH is the "Third new job" of the next expansion, as is the title that is given to whichever job they basically rework from the ground up. If they do decide to do something along those lines, I hope they do something very interesting with the fairy. There needs to be more interaction between the SCH and Lily/Seraph that truly makes it feel like they are companions on the battlefield. This will restore a lot of the identity that SCH has lost throughout the years.
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  4. #14
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post
    I wouldn't call Stratagem an outlier, it fits very well with the damage spells, especially Biolysis and AoW II which could all be abilities from the same family.
    I dunno, maybe it's just me. Chain Stratagem while being a sort of a magic writing knowledge ability still has this distinct "computer" feel which to me clashes with the "ink and quill" look of the rest of the abilities. Looks and feels very technological as opposed to the mystic, hermetic look of the rest of the attack spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    I dunno, maybe it's just me. Chain Stratagem while being a sort of a magic writing knowledge ability still has this distinct "computer" feel which to me clashes with the "ink and quill" look of the rest of the abilities. Looks and feels very technological as opposed to the mystic, hermetic look of the rest of the attack spells.
    I just don't know where you see the "ink and quill" look. Broil is an explosion and Biolysis uses the same colours and an extremely similar sound effect as Strategem and looks very technological too. Same for Art of War II.
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  6. #16
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    Kacho Nacho
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    White Mage Lv 99
    But scholars do have the best auto attack in the game. Fear my encyclopedia!
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  7. #17
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    Mike Arklight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    But scholars do have the best auto attack in the game. Fear my encyclopedia!
    maka..... CHOP
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    One thing that always bugged me about SCH aestetics, is how both SCH and SNN share the same animations how they keep their book "unsheathed", as well as the job specific emotes. At the very least, give one of them something new, for example, like the pose Urianger has when fighting for the first time ever as Arcanist with the WoD Group.

    That aside, i dont think SCH lacks much in that department, Gameplay-elements however, theres ALOT of things SCH could need a change, to the point that i would even say that it needs a rework from scratch, because FFXIV SCH is more of a arcanist with a new pet and a focus on basic Healing abilities, rather than what the name implies, but that's for another Thread.
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  9. #19
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    Alphyn Vyrs
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    It's still incurring a debt due to it's rushed development/implementation for ARR (not critiquing the Devs here, just that that entire era of development for them was massively cursed due to time constraints and certain things were undoubtedly done/handled due to those circumstances) a debt SMN only just now in EW was able to break free from. All of it's issues stems from that, I hope whatever rework we get for SCH in 7.0/in the future re-incorporates the Light Arts and Dark Arts concept from FFXI. Regardless it's final capstone whenever we reach lvl 99 or 100 should be Tabula Rasa, the very first appearance of a (non playable non Job) scholar in FF1 essentially utilized one and it would be a shame if this wasn't referenced in some manner in SCH's XIV toolkit.
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    While the Sage lasers are cutting it close, I'm a sucker for magic circle and glyph effects myself so SCH is definitely my favorite as far as the attack spells are concerned, I have no real opinion on the healing spells but I do love how deployment tactics looks alot, how it just explodes out from the target does make me feel like im spreading the shields like I'm supposed to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    In the end, every change, every design choice, is up to the devs. If they decided to go one way with an element of gameplay or a job, acting like they kicked your dog on the forums isn't going to change anything. At some point, you have to cut your losses or you're just wasting energy being so emotionnaly invested into something that won't change.

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