So did i hear correctly? Old "THE FEAST" Top 100 Rewards will become available again?

[Warlyx]

A pretty defeatist way of thinking to be honest. Just because SE did something wrong and got away with it once doesn't mean we shouldn't protest when they try to get away with more wrong things.

By this line of thought, they should also add Legacy tattoo, Chocobo and status on the Mogstation.

fine to me , go add it to Veteran Rewards it even makes sense!

[Moonlite]

A pretty defeatist way of thinking to be honest. Just because SE did something wrong and got away with it once doesn't mean we shouldn't protest when they try to get away with more wrong things.

By this line of thought, they should also add Legacy tattoo, Chocobo and status on the Mogstation.

I have the tattoo and don't really care if people get it. We are so past SE caring about players and truly listening. This isn't 1.X anymore. And they have such a rabid base almost any problems are squashed. Not to mention how bad game journalism is right now. They know to keep their privileges they can't really say anything bad.


This is my honest truthful thought on what will happen with feast rewards. They will have some basic colour or design rework. Just enough to say "We kept our promise" while not really keeping their promise. This is a company that A) has very predatory mobile games B) has started embracing the GaaS motto which is never good.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

fine to me , go add it to Veteran Rewards it even makes sense!

Chocobo mount in veteran rewards yes please! The story of it is so touching, my bird is out there looking for me damnit!! Let it find me SE you monsters!

Curious what the first lot of feast things they will bring back is... bets anyone? Season 18 armour plz an ty. Cannot wait for the day they drop and the bitching commences in full from these ppl ^^

[linayar]

Maybe don't tie value and self-worth to stupid doodads in video games?

I have the legacy tattoo and goobbue, and yeah, they should. Who cares?

While I'm fine with rewards coming back, if there is no value to them, then there is no "should" with respect to whether they are coming back. If no one cares for them, then it doesn't matter if they don't come back.

[Theodric]

At the end of the day the game itself isn't even going to be around forever. Some people commenting right now might not even be playing in one, two, five or ten years time. There's a lot of stuff I earned back when I played other games, such as WoW. I haven't touched that game in years and I do not plan to ever do so again. I wouldn't want the players who do still play WoW to miss out on the stuff I earned and enjoyed, though.

I also disagree with the claim that the developers of FFXIV 'lied' or that they need to commit to every promise that they make. MMO's by their very nature are not a one and done experience. They're constantly being tweaked and receive new content. Sometimes old content returns.

We've had a number of promotional events return to allow a new batch of players to acquire and enjoy some of the rewards that were only temporarily available. Recent examples would be the Dragon Quest crossover event, the FFXV crossover event and the Yo-Kai crossover event. I completed all three when they first arrived. The Yo-Kai crossover event in particular involved a lengthy grind.

I'm not frustrated or bitter that the rewards were brought back. Mostly because I collected them because I legitimately wanted to add them to my collection rather than to show them off. The same can be said of every other 'exclusive' item or achievement that I've earned over the years, even the ones that took a lot of time or effort to acquire.

[Moonlite]

At the end of the day the game itself isn't even going to be around forever. Some people commenting right now might not even be playing in one, two, five or ten years time. There's a lot of stuff I earned back when I played other games, such as WoW. I haven't touched that game in years and I do not plan to ever do so again. I wouldn't want the players who do still play WoW to miss out on the stuff I earned and enjoyed, though.

I also disagree with the claim that the developers of FFXIV 'lied' or that they need to commit to every promise that they make. MMO's by their very nature are not a one and done experience. They're constantly being tweaked and receive new content. Sometimes old content returns.

First part is well said. I don't understand people wanting others to not have stuff. If I have a nice car, why wouldn't I want my neighbour to have one. If my PC is good why wouldn't I want everyone to have one. Also anyone with a smidge of understanding knows that firsts pay a penalty. First DVD cost over a thousand dollars. People used to pay 10k for 60 inch tvs.



The "lied" part is iffy for me though. At this point don't say exclusive, limited, or other words. Next while the devs seems to be PR golden children. They need to react better. While this isn't like when they ignored housing issues over Christmas, because they could. Or when they let Stormblood be hot garbage at launch. A CM could easily post this is the plan and better worded explanation. The LL was a vague mess, even the Japanese was. And who approved such a bad explanation?

[Rowde]

Unless they invest in better live moderation teams, then every person I see with "exclusive" PvP rewards I will assume is a hacker/win-trader, just like I assume every person I see gregariously flaunting Ultimate Titles and Weapons bought their clear.

[Theodric]

The "lied" part is iffy for me though. At this point don't say exclusive, limited, or other words. Next while the devs seems to be PR golden children. They need to react better. While this isn't like when they ignored housing issues over Christmas, because they could. Or when they let Stormblood be hot garbage at launch. A CM could easily post this is the plan and better worded explanation. The LL was a vague mess, even the Japanese was. And who approved such a bad explanation?

I'm mostly basing it on the legal wording contained within the terms of service. The development team can arguably say what they like because the terms of service are of higher priority when dictating what 'is' and what 'is not'. Ultimately everything related to the game is subject to change and that is something that we all agree to acknowledge when creating an account.

It's also likely why they're pretty vague when talking about most of their plans in the present compared to how they spoke about their plans back in the days of ARR.

We also don't actually own our characters or account technically speaking. We just rent them for as long as we pay a subscription fee and even then the terms of service force us to acknowledge that our access could, potentially, be denied for any reason whatsoever. Usually businesses don't abuse that element and only ban players when they actively break the rules, though.

[Snorky]

I'm mostly basing it on the legal wording contained within the terms of service. The development team can arguably say what they like because the terms of service are of higher priority when dictating what 'is' and what 'is not'. Ultimately everything related to the game is subject to change and that is something that we all agree to acknowledge when creating an account.

It's also likely why they're pretty vague when talking about most of their plans in the present compared to how they spoke about their plans back in the days of ARR.

We also don't actually own our characters or account technically speaking. We just rent them for as long as we pay a subscription fee and even then the terms of service force us to acknowledge that our access could, potentially, be denied for any reason whatsoever. Usually businesses don't abuse that element and only ban players when they actively break the rules, though.

Theodric is right, we pay a subscription to play their game and they have every right to change things along the way. We own nothing in this game we just rent it. Most gaming companies want people to play and enjoy their games. Maybe if we stop treating developers like rock stars to be worshipped things would be easier on everyone. I think it would be healthier for everyone if we just remember we are all people with faults and good qualities. We can all have an opinion it just doesn't always make it the right one for the game.

[Anzaman]

I'd be very happy if they could bring back old Feast Armours with reasonable obtaining method.

Keep them timed exclusive for some time, sure, but not for rest of games lifespan.