Like I said in the sentence you quoted. There are also people who play PvP, who would dislike it, even though they don't have the items. But that doesn't fit your argument I guess.
It is not even specifically PvP rewards what I am against, I like content that is challenging and that rewards that challenge. Playing against other humans competitively is always challenging, so it made sense to reward it. I don't think time should devalue it, as it is not PvE, you can't outgear PvP. Adjusting the system retroactively doesn't feel right, even this season is advertised on the lodestone as having "exclusive prizes".
no :P , a reward that is earned with difficulty feels better than one you get with no effort
(the bozja mage glam or deepshadow set is maybe an option though)
And then there are still some 2.0 minion who are still not on the mogstation... I wonder why
At the end of the day, I actually think it would be a good thing to keep the old Feast rewards locked as they are. Maybe release recoloured versions or versions with different dye patterns, maybe throw an extra detail or logo on the texture to differentiate the new versions, but leave the original ones as is. Sure not everyone who has them earned them the hard way or the right way, but I'm sure most did (or at least had the desire to put in the work to get them).
Feast rewards really shouldn't come back just so a bunch of people that have constantly spit on pvp and degraded it can earn them for zero effort. I love hellhound but halfway through the season I had to quit the game due to irl reasons so I ended missing the set, sucks that I don't have it but oh well...I wish I had the legacy tat aswell. Would be nice for SE to clarify this so people that post on the forums more than play the game can stop arguing amongst each other.
Why do people keep saying "earn for zero effort"? As if these mounts wouldn't be put back into Ranked PvP achievements and rewards? I don't think anyone here has asked for the rewards for anything less than several thousand Wolf Marks/Collars, or even behind a 'x amount of wins' achievement.
Simply ranking to get the reward in Feast was never hard. To get into the bottom ranks and keep your spot was a time sink, not a challenge.
Wins and wolf marks are terrible ideas that are both zero effort. Shatter and other frontlines have been infested with bots since stormblood because its decent to level with, rewards, and you can farm light for the hw relic in pvp.Why do people keep saying "earn for zero effort"? As if these mounts wouldn't be put back into Ranked PvP achievements and rewards? I don't think anyone here has asked for the rewards for anything less than several thousand Wolf Marks/Collars, or even behind a 'x amount of wins' achievement.
Simply ranking to get the reward in Feast was never hard. To get into the bottom ranks and keep your spot was a time sink, not a challenge.
As someone who does PvP daily and has taken the time to acquire pretty much every mount available from Frontlines, I don't have an issue with PvP being made more accessible and rewarding. In fact, I encourage it.
I stopped bothering with ranked PvP in its current form due to the presence of cheaters and I know many others in my position who left the game mode in disgust. I'd rather not see PvP held hostage by a select few who pursue exclusivity over good sportsmanship and honourable combat.
A pretty defeatist way of thinking to be honest. Just because SE did something wrong and got away with it once doesn't mean we shouldn't protest when they try to get away with more wrong things.
By this line of thought, they should also add Legacy tattoo, Chocobo and status on the Mogstation.
Maybe don't tie value and self-worth to stupid doodads in video games?
I have the legacy tattoo and goobbue, and yeah, they should. Who cares? My dude, I spent around 100 hours grinding onsal hakar wins for that kobold armor mount and if they nerfed it tomorrow to only be 20 wins I would say thank god. I have bought 3 out of 4 of their insane statues to get my hands on emotes and if they threw those emotes onto the mogstation for a tenner, I would say rad and buy the one I didn't pick up because it looks stupid but I am happy to look dumb for 10 bux.A pretty defeatist way of thinking to be honest. Just because SE did something wrong and got away with it once doesn't mean we shouldn't protest when they try to get away with more wrong things.
By this line of thought, they should also add Legacy tattoo, Chocobo and status on the Mogstation.
No object or title in this game has value or meaning. It is an online game and everything we accomplish is like dust in the wind when the servers inevitably must go down. This weird mentality about artificial scarcity is absurd. Let people get the fun things and have their fun, that is the entire point. The brief moments of joy and the memories you make are the only value that actually matters.
Last edited by Arkdra; 11-11-2021 at 04:18 PM.
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