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    You got 2 choices OP:

    1. Get the game on the original release date and complain it won't let you log in for 5 hours and every time you enter a zone or a dungeon your game lags then crashes.
    or
    2. Wait until the later release date and have a more stable game that's actually playable and needs less maintenance work.
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    Gaius van Baelsar: Nor is this unknown to your masters. Which prompts the question: what came first, the chicken or the egg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    You got 2 choices OP:

    1. Get the game on the original release date and complain it won't let you log in for 5 hours and every time you enter a zone or a dungeon your game lags then crashes.
    or
    2. Wait until the later release date and have a more stable game that's actually playable and needs less maintenance work.
    That doesn't change the fact that the game should've released in a stable way in the first place, lol. It's SE fault for not being able to manage their time right as likable as Yoshi is. I mean i have also empathy for the team and i don't mind whenever it will release but that doesn't mean that it wasn't a mistake on their end and bad time management which affects now tens of thousands of players in a rather bad way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayal View Post
    People are acting like Raubahn was sooo bad it was fix in a few hours
    hahahahaha.

    I had enough time to do the other side of the 60-62 MSQ (complete with side-quests) in the Peaks while waiting for a fix. It wasn't "a few hours".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayal View Post
    People are acting like Raubahn was sooo bad it was fix in a few hours
    I had enough time to level SAM from 50-60, do the other areas quests, and still wait several hours a day or so later before getting through. It wasn't "A couple hours"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayal View Post
    People are acting like Raubahn was sooo bad it was fix in a few hours
    NA data centers were also dealing with a DoS attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayal View Post
    People are acting like Raubahn was sooo bad it was fix in a few hours
    People on my server were stuck at this point for a couple days, this is an objectively false statement.
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    I think people who are unhappy after having made specific arrangements for the original release date are perfectly within their rights to feel this way, but I'd also like to add my own voice to say that I wholeheartedly support the delay.

    I too made meticulous plans for my whole month based around the 19th November, and now find myself in a strange position of having two extra weeks. But watching the stream and reading Yoshida-san's message on the Lodestone, I know this decision was not made lightly, and was made only with the intention of improving the game experience for everyone. I can't possibly fault that.

    To be honest, if the team made an announcement at some point where they said "we need to stop regular game updates for a few months/a year to work on improving X", I would be totally okay with that. Of course I love getting regular updates and am hugely impressed with how well they've kept to their schedule over the years, but sometimes a change is needed for a better result! I would rather have a delayed game that ultimately was a smoother and more rewarding experience than have it rushed.

    Could this have been mitigated with better time management from the beginning? Maybe. But FFXIV has, for most of the past decade, had the most regular update schedule of content of ever-increasing quality of any game that I can think of. I'm totally okay with allowing them some slack here and there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that the game should've released in a stable way in the first place, lol. It's SE fault for not being able to manage their time right as likable as Yoshi is. I mean i have also empathy for the team and i don't mind whenever it will release but that doesn't mean that it wasn't a mistake on their end and bad time management which affects now tens of thousands of players in a rather bad way.
    The point is that they have acknowledged it was a mistake. So therefore there is no reason to poke at it. Criticism is for the purpose of helping others realise where they can do better. It becomes a nuisance when the person already knows where they went wrong and has acknowledged it.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    The point is that they have acknowledged it was a mistake. So therefore there is no reason to poke at it. Criticism is for the purpose of helping others realise where they can do better. It becomes a nuisance when the person already knows where they went wrong and has acknowledged it.
    Voicing your dissatisfaction is important though, it shows them that they might need to consider such factors in the future and schedule their releases to a later date before announcing them. If everyone accepts stuff just in silence it shows corpos that they can do it again in the future, i mean why not people will just take it in silence.

    Though i agree with you that there shouldn't be endless bashing and flaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that the game should've released in a stable way in the first place, lol. It's SE fault for not being able to manage their time right as likable as Yoshi is. I mean i have also empathy for the team and i don't mind whenever it will release but that doesn't mean that it wasn't a mistake on their end and bad time management which affects now tens of thousands of players in a rather bad way.
    My husband has worked as a programmer for 30 years. He's been in 3 different companies and they all set release dates for their products. Sometimes though things go badly unexpectantly and they have to unavoidably delay release dates. Is that bad time management? No, it's called @!#? happens.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 11-07-2021 at 05:14 AM.
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