FFXIV 6.0 comes out December 7th. Pre-release is December 3rd

[HyoMinPark]

Mate. I am just explaining how they wouldn't be so disappointed, had they considered things. If that's talking down to people. Then damn the world must be a harsh place for some. If I took time off for a game.. and it got my plans all ruined, am i really allowed to be mad at the developers? I feel like it would be my fault.. for expecting something that is not in my control to go smoothly.

Who do you get mad at when a company fails to deliver a product to you? I don’t think it’s realistic to get mad at yourself for something like that—vacation time being a factor or not. Someone is going to be the source of a person’s ire/upset/disappointment. And that’s fine—as long as they are being reasonable about it. I don’t see many in this thread being unreasonable when they post about why they are upset about this. Most are fairly calm; and most are just upset that the delay was announced so late.

Maybe that phrase was worded wrongly. But still the other points of expecting delays, and people wouldn't be upset.

I have to agree that yes, perhaps it could have been worded better. If we want to just chalk this up to a semantics argument, then fine. But your words were “just don’t be upset”. That’s still telling someone how to feel. Even with the addendum of “if things don’t go as planned”/your quip about “if people had considered things”. It is extremely easy for such a phrase to come off as condescending. There’s no real way to excuse that.

However, there has never been a precedent set in this game for delays when a hard date for a release has been set. EW’s delay seems especially harsh because we already know content was cut out of late ShB to make sure that development time could be fully dedicated to EW-related preparation and activities. And there was no talk about the mere possibility of there being further delays than what we already had (since expansions have been routinely released in late June/early July, and the developers were transparent that COVID cost them about two months of development time).

And yes I started my first post... off in this thread, like that. Cause you know why? someone needs to tell them.

No. No one needs to tell anyone how to utilize their time off. That’s not anyone’s business but the person using the PTO. Not mine. Not yours. Not Yoshida’s or SE’s. Just their’s. There is no reason to tell anyone how to spend their time. With regards to anything, really. Not just vacation time.

We are not far off from having people in these threads bullying the developers, to the point they CUT communication completely between the devs and the players. We are one bad incident from a developer getting death threats, them cutting communication off from the playerbase.. and then there is none. Then the game falls into chaos.

Bullying? Death threats? No one is bullying the development team here. Criticizing them is not bullying. And death threats? As crazy as these forums get, most here would agree that sending death threats to a developer is uncalled for, and would rightfully shame the sender for it. I get that they’re a thing that happens, but that’s not what is happening here. Far from it.

a better heads up would be ideal, problem is, bugs dont tend to notify you in advance that they will be found or respect time management plans. also, it could appear minor of the surface, then when looked into, touch more aspects of the software than originally thought. sure, it may not have been game but maybe server code, who knows, we arent at those meetings. a month would have been nice warning time, but thats not always possible. unless they release meeting notes or recordings it is hard to say exactly why they were forced to delay, but I doubt it was an easy decision.

I agree its normal to be upset, even be upset when vacation plans change, but it happens, sorry it does, but it does. sorry it didnt work out how we wanted or planned but life is unpredictable that way.

This wasn’t about bugs, though—it was announced WHY the game was delayed, and it had nothing to do with programming bugs. Yoshida said that they wanted to fine-tune the lore. And then there was the server stability issues that came up during QA—and those have been known about for weeks.

You seem to think I have an issue with the reverse I can tell you to stop, just as you are free to keep going. You'd do well to stop taking offense to it as you should already know people will have something to say about it.
Forums exists for feedback and this isn't feedback. You were informed of the reason for the delay, you don't have to like it but it is what it is. There's nothing for them to learn from your whining, they already know people made plans and took off work.

This thread is feedback. If they took the time to read comments about how people wished they had more time to rearrange schedules, they can use that for future announcements should this happen again. The needless white-knighting is all irrelevant, though.