FFXIV 6.0 comes out December 7th. Pre-release is December 3rd

[ChocoPuni]

Stop taking PTO for Video Games. It really sickens me to hear or see Yoshi-P and the dev crew cry. People in this game, are imo toxic for them as developers.. Idolize developers as some sort of God. Stop it. They are human beings. Software Development especially for MMO's is more than likely 10x harder than any job that anyone here in this thread is working.

They are human beings. Stop being upset that they didn't release on the 19th/23rd. It sucks that it might screw up your plans. BUTS THATS ON YOU. Not them. Take a step back and put yourself in their shoes for once. Guaranteed you would see things very differently.

People should know by now. Especially during/after Covid. With layoffs, Delays should be expected.

Wow.
Sitting in a comfortable office with snacks, gyms, air-conditioning is "10x times harder than any job anyone here working"??

I'm sick of this "ohmygosh game developers are SUFFERING!" non-sense. Yes, harassment is bad and yes, crunch is bad. But it seems nobody has any idea how the reality is like. Even if you are being forced to crunch, you're still going to get paid for it. You're not working for free. Even if you are getting harassed, you can always find another job. Especially if you have enough experience and resume to get hired at a big IT company to begin with. I can't get hired at a freaking Walgreens. Even if you get laid off, you'll be okay.

Game developers aren't suffering. They are spending days in well-designed offices with A/C, food, drinks and gym. Every crunch is being paid for (and if not, you can sue them and expect to win, especially nowadays and especially in countries where laws matter), every harassment can be reported. You guys act like game developers live in Soviet Russia, work overtime and don't get even the non - over-time money. My grandparents worked at a government job in Soviet Union and a lot of people in the village had to go on FOR MONTHS without a paycheck they've earned. They had to make food themselves (because the stores would only have the most basic ingredients and no "ready in 10 minutes meal"), while also paying for bills and other necessities.

If you want to go pity someone and say "they're suffering", at least do it to someone who actually has a hard time.

This is the problem with modern culture - you are all pretending that the third-world doesn't exist, that the history and other things don't exist. You do NOT feel bad or try to do anything to help anyone who actually suffers, yet you have the audacity to act like people who sit in the offices are suffering so so so very much. Unless the media forces you to acknowledge some issues people experience, you won't even blink an eye. You won't blink an eye on the German and Russian immigrants who take me to work on taxi for misery money just because nobody else hires them (or me), you won't blink your eye on my coworkers who have to work in terrible conditions; on the woman who used to work at my workplace half of her life and still can't earn more than she used to.

But sure, they're suffering. These poor, poor IT people are absolutely starving. When are we going to set up a GoFundMe for those poor souls???

[RobynDaBank]

Wow.
Sitting in a comfortable office with snacks, gyms, air-conditioning is "10x times harder than any job anyone here working"??

I'm sick of this "ohmygosh game developers are SUFFERING!" non-sense. Yes, harassment is bad and yes, crunch is bad. But it seems nobody has any idea how the reality is like. Even if you are being forced to crunch, you're still going to get paid for it. You're not working for free. Even if you are getting harassed, you can always find another job. Especially if you have enough experience and resume to get hired at a big IT company to begin with. I can't get hired at a freaking Walgreens. Even if you get laid off, you'll be okay.

Game developers aren't suffering. They are spending days in well-designed offices with A/C, food, drinks and gym. Every crunch is being paid for (and if not, you can sue them and expect to win, especially nowadays and especially in countries where laws matter), every harassment can be reported. You guys act like game developers live in Soviet Russia, work overtime and don't get even the non - over-time money. My grandparents worked at a government job in Soviet Union and a lot of people in the village had to go on FOR MONTHS without a paycheck they've earned. They had to make food themselves (because the stores would only have the most basic ingredients and no "ready in 10 minutes meal"), while also paying for bills and other necessities.

If you want to go pity someone and say "they're suffering", at least do it to someone who actually has a hard time.

This is the problem with modern culture - you are all pretending that the third-world doesn't exist, that the history and other things don't exist. You do NOT feel bad or try to do anything to help anyone who actually suffers, yet you have the audacity to act like people who sit in the offices are suffering so so so very much. Unless the media forces you to acknowledge some issues people experience, you won't even blink an eye. You won't blink an eye on the German and Russian immigrants who take me to work on taxi for misery money just because nobody else hires them (or me), you won't blink your eye on my coworkers who have to work in terrible conditions; on the woman who used to work at my workplace half of her life and still can't earn more than she used to.

But sure, they're suffering. These poor, poor IT people are absolutely starving. When are we going to set up a GoFundMe for those poor souls???

Quoted before "byeeee"!

[Poporito_Popoto]

Wow.
Sitting in a comfortable office with snacks, gyms, air-conditioning is "10x times harder than any job anyone here working"??

I'm sick of this "ohmygosh game developers are SUFFERING!" non-sense. Yes, harassment is bad and yes, crunch is bad. But it seems nobody has any idea how the reality is like. Even if you are being forced to crunch, you're still going to get paid for it. You're not working for free. Even if you are getting harassed, you can always find another job. Especially if you have enough experience and resume to get hired at a big IT company to begin with. I can't get hired at a freaking Walgreens. Even if you get laid off, you'll be okay.

Game developers aren't suffering. They are spending days in well-designed offices with A/C, food, drinks and gym. Every crunch is being paid for (and if not, you can sue them and expect to win, especially nowadays and especially in countries where laws matter), every harassment can be reported. You guys act like game developers live in Soviet Russia, work overtime and don't get even the non - over-time money. My grandparents worked at a government job in Soviet Union and a lot of people in the village had to go on FOR MONTHS without a paycheck they've earned. They had to make food themselves (because the stores would only have the most basic ingredients and no "ready in 10 minutes meal"), while also paying for bills and other necessities.

If you want to go pity someone and say "they're suffering", at least do it to someone who actually has a hard time.

This is the problem with modern culture - you are all pretending that the third-world doesn't exist, that the history and other things don't exist. You do NOT feel bad or try to do anything to help anyone who actually suffers, yet you have the audacity to act like people who sit in the offices are suffering so so so very much. Unless the media forces you to acknowledge some issues people experience, you won't even blink an eye. You won't blink an eye on the German and Russian immigrants who take me to work on taxi for misery money just because nobody else hires them (or me), you won't blink your eye on my coworkers who have to work in terrible conditions; on the woman who used to work at my workplace half of her life and still can't earn more than she used to.

But sure, they're suffering. These poor, poor IT people are absolutely starving. When are we going to set up a GoFundMe for those poor souls???

At least you can't 'Thread closed' this one.

[Anonicat]

Wow.
Sitting in a comfortable office with snacks, gyms, air-conditioning is "10x times harder than any job anyone here working"??

I'm sick of this "ohmygosh game developers are SUFFERING!" non-sense. Yes, harassment is bad and yes, crunch is bad. But it seems nobody has any idea how the reality is like. Even if you are being forced to crunch, you're still going to get paid for it. You're not working for free. Even if you are getting harassed, you can always find another job. Especially if you have enough experience and resume to get hired at a big IT company to begin with. I can't get hired at a freaking Walgreens. Even if you get laid off, you'll be okay.

Game developers aren't suffering. They are spending days in well-designed offices with A/C, food, drinks and gym. Every crunch is being paid for (and if not, you can sue them and expect to win, especially nowadays and especially in countries where laws matter), every harassment can be reported. You guys act like game developers live in Soviet Russia, work overtime and don't get even the non - over-time money. My grandparents worked at a government job in Soviet Union and a lot of people in the village had to go on FOR MONTHS without a paycheck they've earned. They had to make food themselves (because the stores would only have the most basic ingredients and no "ready in 10 minutes meal"), while also paying for bills and other necessities.

If you want to go pity someone and say "they're suffering", at least do it to someone who actually has a hard time.

This is the problem with modern culture - you are all pretending that the third-world doesn't exist, that the history and other things don't exist. You do NOT feel bad or try to do anything to help anyone who actually suffers, yet you have the audacity to act like people who sit in the offices are suffering so so so very much. Unless the media forces you to acknowledge some issues people experience, you won't even blink an eye. You won't blink an eye on the German and Russian immigrants who take me to work on taxi for misery money just because nobody else hires them (or me), you won't blink your eye on my coworkers who have to work in terrible conditions; on the woman who used to work at my workplace half of her life and still can't earn more than she used to.

But sure, they're suffering. These poor, poor IT people are absolutely starving. When are we going to set up a GoFundMe for those poor souls???

Nice strawman. Have you ever built a game before? Or done software development?

[Fredco191]

Damn. This is unfortunate.