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    Haha, being wrong about jumping on someone who was right to begin with now just means they have a stick up their ass. Just keep stretching the definition of already established terminology to cover your ass so you feel justified. Right on. Here, I'll even like your post so you feel better about yourself.

    Oh man, these forums...
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    Last edited by miyakai; 03-01-2012 at 05:52 AM.

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    LOL you is mad broseph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miyakai View Post
    Every skill you earn while using a specific weapon does not get categorized as a "weaponskill." Thus, Life Surge, Featherfoot, Foresight, Chameleon, etc. are not weaponskills.

    Weaponskills are the attacks that cost TP and create that environmental dimming + spotlight effect when you perform them, and they are usually part of a combo tree.

    Awesome display of spreading misinformation. Whats even btter is that your correcting another poster, yet doing it with misinformation.
    * * Actions can roughly be divided into the following three categories:- Weaponskills: Actions performed by Disciples of War that require TP or MP.- Magic: Actions performed by Disciples of Magic that require MP.- Combat Abilities: Actions that grant various status effects.
    Thats any action, any at all that requires TP or MP by a DoW.

    Life surge, for example cost MP thus is a WS.



    As someone mentioned earlier, Holy and Freeze were chosen because White Mage and Black Mage don't actually get any weaponskills. Well DUH. By definition WS are only perforemed by DoW.
    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com.../action01.html <---Link to lodestone page with WS definition.
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  4. #334
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    Nope. Is everyone incapable of reading?

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-Action-Lists

    The following types of actions exist:

    Abilities (Abl.)
    Abilities can be performed instantaneously with no risk of interruption. Barring a few exceptions, abilities are governed by a recast timer only.

    Weaponskills (WS)
    Weaponskills are offensive actions performed with your weapon. Barring a few exceptions, weaponskills require TP to perform.

    Magic (Mag.)
    Magic, or spells, are actions that require MP to perform. Barring a few exceptions, magic is subject to a casting time.
    Then scroll down through the charts where each and every single action in the game is actually noted whether it's a weaponskill, ability, or magic. "Weaponskill" is not some supertype blanket term for every single DoW skill that costs TP. Weaponskills are a subtype of actions that are specifically attacks that use your equipped weapon and usually cost TP.

    The supertype blanket term you should be using is "actions." Why is this so hard to comprehend?

    (Whoops, there it says Life Surge is an ability, not a weaponskill! Wow! I guess that's because it has nothing to do with the weapon you're holding. WEIRD.)
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    Last edited by miyakai; 03-01-2012 at 06:43 AM.

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    hmmm............
    Does not caring make it hard to comprehend?
    Does it matter even? Not really....
    If you play a specific job, you learn all it's abilities/WS/etc. so that you know how to use them most effectively in any given battle situation...
    who the hell cares how they are defined?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miyakai View Post
    Nope. Is everyone incapable of reading?

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-Action-Lists



    Then scroll down through the charts where each and every single action in the game is actually noted whether it's a weaponskill, ability, or magic. "Weaponskill" is not some supertype blanket term for every single DoW skill that costs TP. Weaponskills are a subtype of actions that are specifically attacks that use your equipped weapon and usually cost TP.

    The supertype blanket term you should be using is "actions." Why is this so hard to comprehend?

    (Whoops, there it says Life Surge is an ability, not a weaponskill! Wow! I guess that's because it has nothing to do with the weapon you're holding. WEIRD.)
    Oh my dear fuc- let it go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirOleas View Post
    who the hell cares how they are defined?
    Apparently the people who decided to jump in on the discussion in attempt to prove that I'm wrong when I'm not. :3


    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Oh my dear fuc- let it go.
    Hahaha~ I like how I'm the one who needs to let it go. You might want to aim that at the people who decided to get snippy about me being right.

    Also, I've just decided that the official forums are just for my entertainment, and not for any sort of intellectual discussion. The masses have already made sure the XIV community looks like a bunch of morons via these boards. So, meh.
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    Last edited by miyakai; 03-01-2012 at 06:52 AM.

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    I really hope Miyakai realizes nothing about this argument matters to anyone ever before they have that heart attack
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    Protip: An 8 hour nap is just called sleeping.

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    14 posts into the forums and I'm already annoyed at you. Congratulations!
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    For those looking for background music from weaponskill movie, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd4boTASlkk
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