Is bard in a bad spot right now?

[aveyond-dreams]

And what of archer?

This is why I want them to release a ranger job so both class fantasies are covered.

Seems all you care is visuals and to that I say, I have nothing to argue with someone with such shallow concerns. Move on and main DNC or BLU if you dislike their result this much but the job will never be a full 100% all songs all the time BRD. Creating ranger is a utter waste of a job slot, why else don’t you see many people arguing for a “Thief Job” away from NIN, or a “Fencer Job” away from RDM.

I care about the job's aesthetic and feel and Bard currently looks bad, and its gameplay would be much improved by giving its songs more strength. Since it's literally called a "Bard." That's why I and many others want to see things like Foe Requiem return.

Creating ranger is a utter waste of a job slot, why else don’t you see many people arguing for a “Thief Job” away from NIN, or a “Fencer Job” away from RDM.

Rangers and Thieves especially are still wanted by a non-insignificant number of people. A ranger or hunter is a prominent class in WoW, where they use bows, traps, poisons, pets, etc. Like I'd expect an archer class to. Thieves are another common archtype that a lot of people gravitate towards but Yoship for whatever reason said the class was not "heroic" or worthy of the warrior of light or something along those lines. Frankly I disagree with him completely since if the wol is too "good" to be a thief, then why is Reaper a thing?? A mystic knight/fencer is also something people want and ask for regularly as well.

The notion that an Archer/Ranger could not stand alone as its own thing is laughable, given how many games have classes just like it. In any case I cannot wait for Bard to receive it's eventual rework once the devs realize that there's no way forward here without something giving way: the songs, or the excessive focus on archery and arrow magic.