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    Quote Originally Posted by miyakai View Post
    Jump was chosen for Dragoon because it's iconic and the community has been begging for it. Dragoon's actual weaponskills are going to be Dragon's Grasp and Ring of Thorns.
    Wait, wait, wait. Dimming effect aside, doesn't the Dragoon's Jump actually deal damage as well as consume TP? I mean I could be wrong and misremembering the dev notes that mentioned it but... It supposedly fits in as a WS as you describe it.
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    Everything is a weaponskill in FFXIV. Your skills are based off of your weapon. Can't believe how devolved this discussion became and so quickly at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Everything is a weaponskill in FFXIV. Your skills are based off of your weapon. Can't believe how devolved this discussion became and so quickly at that.
    That's what happens when people keep insisting on saying crap that's false, like you just did.

    Everything is an "action."

    Here you go. Now you can see for yourself what actions SE themselves classifies as Weaponskills (WS), Abilities (Abl.), and Magic (Mag.). Enjoy.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-Action-Lists
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    Last edited by miyakai; 03-01-2012 at 04:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miyakai View Post
    That's what happens when people keep insisting on saying crap that's false, like you just did.

    Everything is an "action."

    Here you go. Now you can see for yourself what actions SE themselves classifies as Weaponskills (WS), Abilities (Abl.), and Magic (Mag.). Enjoy.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-Action-Lists
    This is all unnecessary. Would you like them to change the title to "Job Action Preview"? That's a cool thing to get up in arms about. Still doesn't make it untrue that you learn them based on the weapon and jobs are an extension of the weapon class.

    Stop wasting space whining about something so stupid as terminology. Everyone knows what the video is conveying.
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  5. #325
    Can't believe this many people are arguing over what to classify these as <_< but back to the video~ I think it would look better if the mobs looked hit once jump was used on them. Instead of just standing there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    Can't believe this many people are arguing over what to classify these as <_< but back to the video~ I think it would look better if the mobs looked hit once jump was used on them. Instead of just standing there.
    It'll be there once it's finished. It looked like most of them animation wise were complete. Only a few had mob hit responses (MNK, WAR, WHM). They just need to be synced and triggered with the animations.
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    I would not be surprised if Jump was a weaponskill seeing how TP is so easy to obtain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    This is all unnecessary. Would you like them to change the title to "Job Action Preview"? That's a cool thing to get up in arms about. Still doesn't make it untrue that you learn them based on the weapon and jobs are an extension of the weapon class.

    Stop wasting space whining about something so stupid as terminology. Everyone knows what the video is conveying.
    Obviously, you chose to add your 2 cents without having any idea what this discussion was even about or how it began. No one implied that they should change the video title. We were just establishing that they technically showed us 4 weaponskills, 2 spells, and 1 ability... Then people started babbling on about how everything is a weaponskill.

    Someone correcting you when you're wrong isn't whining. Whining when someone corrects you is whining. Perhaps you are the one who should stop wasting space by being wrong?

    *shrug*

    I knew I should have listened to my gut instead of ever reading the official forums outside of the dev-tracker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaaru View Post
    I would not be surprised if Jump was a weaponskill seeing how TP is so easy to obtain.
    It's not.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-Action-Lists

    DRG - Abl. 1 - Performs a jumping attack on the target.
    DRG - Abl. 2 - Performs a jumping evasion and attack that triggers when you are attacked.
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    Last edited by miyakai; 03-01-2012 at 05:37 AM.

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    Ugh dear god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miyakai View Post
    Obviously, you chose to add your 2 cents without having any idea what this discussion was even about or how it began. No one implied that they should change the video title. We were just establishing that they technically showed us 4 weaponskills, 2 spells, and 1 ability... Then people started babbling on about how everything is a weaponskill.

    Someone correcting you when you're wrong isn't whining. Whining when someone corrects you is whining. Perhaps you are the one who should stop wasting space by being wrong?

    *shrug*

    I knew I should have listened to my gut instead of ever reading the official forums outside of the dev-tracker.
    If I called the actions Weaponskill, Weaponbility, and Weaponspell everyone would still understand what I was saying. Thus making your need to point out what is wrong pointless.

    "Everything is a weaponskill", in a sense is correct though as they are all learned based on your weapon and the job's skills, weaponskills, abilities, and spells are based off of such. So, yeah, they are weapon skills. You are just thinking too traditionally and literally.

    In fact, no one is wrong. The only difference is perspective. Oh, and a stick up your ass.
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