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  1. #11
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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Yeah I've been reporting them on Crystal when I see them. It's roughly the same three individuals flooding the FF.

    It's almost sad.
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  2. #12
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I'm concerned that it's going legit take several months before they actually do something about this again.

    The pace at which information gets relayed to the head developers seems painfully slow most of the time and it's presumably the media tour interviews that brought up the issue directly to Yoshi P that got action taken quickly.
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  3. #13
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Do people use the fellowship finder? I know I most certainly have never looked at it. Actually that isn't true. I did when it dropped then never after. I wouldn't worry much about it regardless. I guarantee you SE will remove them. Its not like you are dealing with Blizzard here. SE actually gets things done.
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  4. #14
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Do people use the fellowship finder? I know I most certainly have never looked at it. Actually that isn't true. I did when it dropped then never after. I wouldn't worry much about it regardless. I guarantee you SE will remove them. Its not like you are dealing with Blizzard here. SE actually gets things done.
    Yes, people use the fellowship finder. It's not uncommon for your fellowship to fill up with 1,000 people. It's a great way to launch a new discord server and many people have done this through the fellowship finder.
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  5. #15
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I’m curious now where will they move to once they’ve been purged out of fellowship finder.
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  6. #16
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    Revon Ackerman
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Imagine being that stubborn..

    Are these actually real people with real accounts? It'd be stupid to risk a ban by doing that. Just report them so they never come back to this game.
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  7. #17
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    Haven Belle
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    Are these actually real people with real accounts? It'd be stupid to risk a ban by doing that. Just report them so they never come back to this game.
    yes people? yes. real accounts? yes, its just not their accounts, when people fall for phishing attempts the gil sellers get your account info they log into your account change your pass then they create bots and use them to farm gil then when someone buys gil they use various accounts to send it, when square cracks down and bans the account they just move on to the next one


    as for buying gil iam not sure why anyone is silly enough to do so, square tracks all the gil RMT make and soon as it lands in your account you get the ban hammer along side the RMT, the difference is the RMT can afford to buy accounts off retired players or use one of the many compromised accounts to continue their business, you get banned and they get real life money so its a win win for them
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    Imagine being that stubborn..

    Are these actually real people with real accounts? It'd be stupid to risk a ban by doing that. Just report them so they never come back to this game.
    gold farmers are eternal. they always have a million accounts, its like they can summon cd keys out of the void.

    i think what actually happens is they keylogger and phish people. after they get an account they dispose of it as such with botting and ingame advertising until it gets banned. at least it used to work in wow that way.
    so not only do you support sweatshop farming in china if you buy gils you supported your brothers losing their accounts.
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  9. #19
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post
    gold farmers are eternal. they always have a million accounts, its like they can summon cd keys out of the void.

    i think what actually happens is they keylogger and phish people. after they get an account they dispose of it as such with botting and ingame advertising until it gets banned. at least it used to work in wow that way.
    so not only do you support sweatshop farming in china if you buy gils you supported your brothers losing their accounts.
    They actually resort to fraudulent methods to purchase the accounts in the case of the mass-produced ARR gil farmers.

    I've heard stories of some banks actually blocking transactions with Square Enix temporarily due to how many chargebacks the RMT companies were demanding, and while doing so ensures your account is going to get banned it doesn't matter when the bots in question are using hacks to speed through the MSQ and rake in hundreds of thousands before they're actually cracked down upon.

    There's essentially "sustainable" bots that resort to methods of gil farming that seldom if ever are actually cracked down on, but require actual monetary investment (Or so I think...), and the "slash and burn" types that aren't meant for prolonged use and aim to farm as much gil as possible between ban waves. They seem to have largely moved to utilizing the former given that I never see literal hundreds of sprout-flagged bots these days and maybe just a couple dozen tops.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 11-02-2021 at 06:52 PM.

  10. #20
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I’m curious now where will they move to once they’ve been purged out of fellowship finder.
    It will end up in shout chat in the major cities, just like other RMT spam. That's one thing SE has a hard time controlling rapidly.
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