Unpopular (probably) opinion about the Nier raids...

[Sebazy]

Storywise as someone who's never played any Nier games, I thought the characters were ok? There were some interesting twists but you had to be paying attention to even really spot them. But outside of that it just felt weak and once you did stop caring, the details were too subtle to ever claw you back in. The raids themselves were passable but mechanically dull outside of a few specific bosses. Most of the fights just felt too long and repetitive.

By comparison the Ivalice raid's story just bored me to tears initially and took far too long to get going. It did eventually get good but I skipped far too much to get there. However, taken as a whole, I'd say it's my favourite raid. It had a whole heap of noteworthy bosses that were enjoyable, memorable and challenging.

For void ark, the thing that really stands out to me was how well it was built up and integrated into the wider game. If you never started the quest line, you could be forgiven for never even realising the whole Neir thing existed. Yet the Void Ark ship floating around the edge of Sea of Clouds was a point of mystery and intrigue from the moment Heavensward dropped.

[CKNovel]

Nier raid had a splitted opinion.

Personally, my complain is that mechanics lacks imagination (last raid was mostly in/sides mechanics), second complain is that the raid Nier is in a bubble that is in Norvrandt bubble itself.
That raid had no impact on XIV universe spare a lalafell village and will never be heard of ever again.

Nier raid is by far my least favorite.
Ivalice had different colors, different personalities but also voice acting!

Nier was a Nier story written by Yoko Taro and little XIV element even made its way in the content. 2 lalafell and the WoL.
Remove those and you get a Nier story that has no connection whatsoever to XIV. And the WoL was staring at things happening most of the time.

If you're not a Nier fanboy, or like the asthetic, there is little chance you connect to the raids.
An event with 2B outfit and a minion was enough.

[baklava151]

I was pretty bummed the weekly quests after didn't lead to anything. I don't know what they would have had in mind but it felt like they did have bigger planned. Then Yoshi last minute pulled the plug and we got what we got instead.

[Kolsykol]

I love Nier Automata, one of my favorite games of all time.

But in FFXIV I loved the raids at first but ended up kinda hating them because of how much I had to grind them lol.
Same with the Bozjan raids they just broke me.

[Lihtleita]

i know man, only thing weirder is if a giant cyan tower full of clone ninjas erupted from underground, boy would that be out of nowhere

[Floortank]

*Possible Spoilers follow*
Anyway, I did some googling and it seems this raid was very highly praised by most of the community, so I expect this to be an unpopular opinion but since day one I said I would be fair to the game when I found both positive and negative. I disliked it so much that if I ever make an alt I will go out of my way to not unlock the place. I hope they dont do something that far out there again.

I wasn't a big fan, either. Factory and Bunker were fun, but Breach was not. I also didn't like the story. It all felt like a big commercial for Nier. The story had nothing to do with FFXIV and ends on a non sequitur.

As an aside, the point of a forum is not to express solidarity with community opinion but to express your own opinion. Could be that others share in your experience.

Anyway I hope Endwalker's 24 man is more fun for you.

[Kes13a]

I was pretty bummed the weekly quests after didn't lead to anything. I don't know what they would have had in mind but it felt like they did have bigger planned. Then Yoshi last minute pulled the plug and we got what we got instead.

from the outside, its hard to say if he pulled the plug or if thats all that was contracted. Collaborations and cross overs would have contracts so one party doesnt keep taking and using. the designers of the raids were the same ones that did Nier. so once they were done, zero contractual obligation to carry on. Its business

Just because SE owns both, doesnt mean its an endless partnership. thats -always- going to be a base issue with collaborations/cross overs

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Story made sense enough to me, but perhaps that's because I have familiarity with all of the Drakengard games and Nier Replicant (old one)/Gestalt. It takes a lot from all of them, while also trying to fit in the story with the twin dwarfs. It's certainly not the best writing Yoko's done, but honestly? The man's C tier stuff is still better than some people's A tier, so I rarely find anything to complain about.

I do feel it could have used more in-between quests or lead-up quests than it had, but I primarily blame the length of things on Covid hitting very soon after ShB launched. That said, Yoko Taro also seems to have a bit of disdain for when SE wants him to do X or Y for monetization (see: Reincarnation), so who knows. But I didn't find them lacking in story, visuals, or mechanics - plus we got a lot of nice glamour pieces beyond the 2B set. As a big DrakeNier fan, I finished it fully satisfied each time.

Which, at least on the forums here, is the actual unpopular opinion from what I usually see. xD

[lezard21]

Why would they take time from rather casual content that most People will likely do to catch up gearing on some jobs/alts, in favour of an ultimate most peopel won't even attempt to try?
Not to mention, at least amongst the peopel I played with at the time, factory and bunker were seen at the very least as 'good enough' for 24 man raids, even if the story was lackluster.

You have a lot of good casual content to do. Why would you want bad casual content like the Nier raids added? Better use that time to either add good casual content or good hardcore content of which there's a lack of.

Sometimes the hardcore hate on these forums make peopel say silly things.

Yet if he is such a genius as many say then that should not have stopped him from giving us at least a good story...

This is a general misconception in gamers of late that a story being convoluted and nonsensical for the sake of being convoluted and nonsensical = 5deep4me. Which is the reason why you have people circle patting their backs around Yoko Taro or Tesuya Nomura, thinking themselves smarter than they actually are for understanding the kindergarden level of story telling both Nier and Kingdom Hearts have. Their popularity have nothing to do with the quality story of the games, and all with that South Park smug fart episode.

You can have a convoluted story that makes sense and is good like 1995's Neon Genesis Evangelion, or Xenogears (and that game had to deal with budget issues and still managed to tell a great and deep story).

[Gameovers]

All the more reason why Stormblood was king! Those raids were nothing but awesome. Tho I like the nier raids cause they gave me the true Ada wong. 1

Realtalk I do like the raids tho. They are fun to DPS in, and the music is gold. Mostly in the second raid honestly. They have DJ music in the one fight and it's BANGIN'

Bringing the screams on B96!!!