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  1. #51
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    The Nier raids are on the bottom for me. I do have to say that I was already very skeptical when they announced it because I dont like advertisement on that scale. We only get one 24 man raid with each expansion and to lose that to another game (not even a FF game...) was really sad. So I did not go into it completely neutral. But it was even worse than I thought. The Ivalice raid was an information overload because it had to explain so much to make sense. Yet at least it tried to fit into the game. It tried to make sense and now gives some more insight on the past of that place. Nier did none of that.

    Most of the stuff was fanservice, the story itself was weak and the lore of the First was not really touched. Thus we might have lost the only chance to ever get more lore from that shard for THAT. IMO dumb twists that did nothing for me (I barely even got to know the first one before she turned on us and we got no real information on the other two until they were gone..), an ending that left me shaking my head and the total waste of these weekly quests..(And I am still left to wonder how nobody ever noticed the factory...)

    Either Yoko Taro was annoyed that he did not have that much of a free reign as he hoped he would get, did not want to do it in the first place or his style simply did not match the story structure he was given. Yet if he is such a genius as many say then that should not have stopped him from giving us at least a good story...

    The only two good things were the music and the idea behind the data notes. The raids and bosses were either forgetable or annoying.

    Why could this not have been some event like Yokai....some fate grinding with glamour from Nier while we would have gotten a original raid on the first...
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  2. #52
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
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    It doesn't seem like the NieR raids have ever been all that popular among the forum or what I've seen of in-game discussion, especially in regard to its integration / story contextualization.

    They were hyped the hell out of before release, and many insisted that the next chapter would redeem the poor storytelling of the one prior after release and that we should just be patient, but no one went away unironically praising how they were situated, as far as I can recall.
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  3. #53
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    Ares Stardust
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    Behemoth
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    I really dislike those raids. I think they look fine (minus tower at paradigm's breach) but they feel dreadful to me... I try to avoid doing them as much as possible! I got what I wanted from them and I hope I don't see them again in endwalker.

    I think the story was terribly bad and it didn't add anything to the game. Even in the last raid a character says something like "you don't have to make sense of what's going on, just fight!".
    I'd say the best that has come out of it was the music and the 2B glamour.
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  4. #54
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Indeed, I would have preferred it x1000 if they had said "sorry we are not releasing a 3rd part of the nier raids no one liked due to covid time constraints, instead we'll use that time to work on Dragonsong Ultimate"
    Why would they take time from rather casual content that most People will likely do to catch up gearing on some jobs/alts, in favour of an ultimate most peopel won't even attempt to try?
    Not to mention, at least amongst the peopel I played with at the time, factory and bunker were seen at the very least as 'good enough' for 24 man raids, even if the story was lackluster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

  5. #55
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    Adeacia Lightheart
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    Adamantoise
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    For me it doesn't matter what 24 player raid it is. I don't like any of them. It's not the story or the bosses or any of that, its just whenever I do one past the first time, I'd always rather be doing something else instead. I only ever do them for the upgrade tokens and wouldn't do them at all past the first time if those weren't there.

    Though I can say something good about the Nier raid: It convinced me to buy NieR: Automata and I ended up really liking that game.
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  6. #56
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    Mansion Viscera
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    I think it's a big down after the Ivalice and Mhach raids which were great. I'll be that guy and say I prefer when the difficulty is tuned a bit higher on these types of content, simply becuase it breaks the monotony of doing these raids over and over. Being a healer in Orbonne was quite fun during Thundergod Cid, I love Dun Scaith and Weeping city.
    The nier raids suffer in that comparison because they were not as challenging and not as interesting in my opinion.

    And outside of gameplay, the story, the setting, the integration in FFXIV, everything felt lackluster or underwhelming, especially after the hype they have created around these raids.
    I don't know people that prefer the nier raids over the other 24man raids around me.
    Nier and Automata are enjoyable games on their own, this collaboration was unnecessary.
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  7. #57
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    Lily Jun
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    My only gripe is red girl. When the dolls come out and spray orbs I cannot see them properly and end up getting vuln that feels unjustified. Too white and bright. Other then that I feel the neir raids are ok. I love ff tactics but absolutely despise the stormblood alliance raids.
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  8. #58
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    The music was nice but thats about it, easily the worst alliance raid imo
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  9. #59
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    No voice acting during the fights... why?
    Only the Ivalice raids had any voice acting, and the first two only for the final bosses. And I honestly spend half of the Monastery wishing the bosses would just shut up after a while. Especially Mustadio, since the overdone flanging effect makes it near impossible to understand him anyway.
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  10. #60
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    Shanon North
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    i like the nier raids, the fights are pretty fun and the music/loot is nice

    but i do wish it had been a bit better intergrated to the world of xiv and the story left a few things to be desired (wish it'd had more of drakenier and less of yoko taro's dwarf ocs). at least it didn't put me to sleep like the ivalice story did though lol
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