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    Quote Originally Posted by AluminumSiren View Post
    I really don't think it's the type of content that you can just shove 50+ random people in and expect it to go well. The current system does not work.
    It does work like this on the JP DC.

    And on the EU Light DC we organize a lot BA runs via Discord to help others to get the mount and new player have priority.

    Quote Originally Posted by AluminumSiren View Post
    • If BA entry is going to stay as-is, the content needs to be simplified and scaled, so that it can actually be completed by a random group of people, similar to Castrum and Dalriada in Bozja.
    BA already scales down to a minimum of 24 player (for AV 32 because 8 player join with the support fate)
    It even can be done with just 12 player, but that needs a lot of preperation.

    Quote Originally Posted by AluminumSiren View Post
    • If BA entry is going to stay as-is, consider adding fragments as a reward to the support fate, so not everyone feels pressured to enter BA because they have to do it to complete their Eureka gear.
    Elemental gear is not needed for BA. We had Newbie runs with 40 new player and were able to clear. The most important thing for BA is preperation and the correct logos actions.
    The crystal reward itself is also enough to attract people in the instance to help.

    I would prefer a system to use spare fragments for something else.
    I and others have already 3k+

    Quote Originally Posted by AluminumSiren View Post
    • Take away the portal system and add BA to duty finder.
    Call it nostalgia but I like the portal system. It makes the whole thing so unique and special.
    Also, on the light DC we rarely have problems with sniper and therefore dont see any problem with the current system.
    From the view point of a BA-run organizer it is even a good thing because I can explain things, joke around and take away the tension of the nervous newbies.

    Quote Originally Posted by AluminumSiren View Post
    Eureka is a lot of fun and it still has a huge attraction despite being fairly old content, but it seems like a lot of players really have negative feelings toward BA in general.
    I dont think BA needs a big change like that because you have whole communitys build around it who love to help others to get the mount.

    I again can just speak for the Light DC but I dont see many people being negative towards BA.
    Yes, they have to join a discord and need to register via a google sheet.
    They need to be in the voice chat to listen to the callouts.
    But 99.99% of the player are understanding and thankfull about the whole experience, their new mount and the whole organization.

    I love BA as it is right now and I dont see any reason to change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    And on the EU Light DC we organize a lot BA runs via Discord to help others to get the mount and new player have priority.
    That's not shoving 50+ people randomly together. It's the exact opposite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Elemental gear is not needed for BA. We had Newbie runs with 40 new player and were able to clear. The most important thing for BA is preperation and the correct logos actions.
    The crystal reward itself is also enough to attract people in the instance to help.
    Where did I say elemental gear was needed for BA? (I didn't). For people that actually like to play Eureka a lot for fun, elemental gear is a huge bonus to have to help out. A small group of people with all their gear can easily prep any NM in any Eureka zone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Also, on the light DC we rarely have problems with sniper and therefore dont see any problem with the current system.
    I again can just speak for the Light DC but I dont see many people being negative towards BA.
    "It's not a problem for me, so it doesn't matter". Ok.

    It's a huge problem on Primal, or I wouldn't be making this. Not a one time "oh this one guy ruined my day" type problem, but a multi-month, multi YEARS ongoing issue. Even square has aknowledged it's an issue and has tried to address it before. (2019 changes to Ovni and Stabilizers).

    Some of us like helping others get their mounts, too. The mount will always be from the achievement of killing Ozma. I'm not sure how changing BA entry requirements will affect that. Ideally BA would be moved to DF where a pre-made alliance is required to que, like DR Savage. People still can help others get mounts, everyone that wants to get in and signs up gets in, no fights over portal sniping.

    Our FC planned a run through a BA discord, and so many portals were sniped, that most of the people that needed the mount didn't get in, and on top of that our key roles didn't get in. The run got cancelled. The next run, same thing happened again.
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    Last edited by AluminumSiren; 11-01-2021 at 08:52 AM.

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