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  1. #11
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    inhaledcorn's Avatar
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    Elliot Cloverfield
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    Adamantoise
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    I would love this, it would be a lot of fun! In general if we can't get Bio III as a separate DoT, I wish they'd roll it into the Bio line that SCH has now, new players to SCH have to wait until level 72 to get any upgrades to Bio II, and now that ACN is losing it's DoTs, Bio I may as well not even exist. Maybe it's a pointless complaint, but SCH players play through all of ARR/HW/SB with the same DoT with 0 changes, that's pretty lame in my opinion.
    Healers having an AoE DoT/their DoT becoming AoE would be fun too, I don't really see a reason why a job like BLM can have an AoE DoT but not healers, which all have their own DoT. I wouldn't even understand a justification of "healers shouldn't do more damage in dungeons" because they clearly don't care about tanks being able to do dungeons without needing healers to heal at all. At this point though, anything to end the monotony that causes healers to zone out while spamming their nuke would make me happy.
    BLM's AoE DoT is a bit different. WHM could use Aero III with Aero II. Thunder II/IV and Thunder I/III overwrite each other.
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  2. #12
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    Zohaha Zoha
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    Ravana
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    White Mage Lv 67
    +1 for Miasma and Bane coming to Scholar

    Would make AoE infinitely more interesting than AoW spam
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  3. #13
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    Tanya Fierlaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Con_Moo View Post
    +1 for Miasma and Bane coming to Scholar

    Would make AoE infinitely more interesting than AoW spam
    I would settle just for bane by itself. Give it to all of the healers actually. At this point it’s just a major inconvenience to have to dot every mob in a wall pull. Or make all of the dot abilities themselves a “whatever radius aoe that bane was” solely for the sake of dungeons, and to save a button. All of the dps jobs get better and better aoe every patch and expansion, and I don’t play tank, but I believe they do too. So a slight qol would be nice.
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    Last edited by MsTanya; 10-30-2021 at 05:39 PM.

  4. #14
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I prefer Shadowflare honestly but I'd settle for anything at this point.
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  5. #15
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MellowMink View Post
    Miasma II would also be nice to see again, since it was a unique AOE dot that the game just no longer has accessible for any job.
    That's why I said "at least".
    Because it's hard already to even get one spell that those I mention would be enough.

    If that were me, I'd ask for Miasma, Shadowflare, Miasma II and Bane to be back.
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    Last edited by KDSilver; 10-30-2021 at 05:59 PM.

  6. #16
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    Tanya Fierlaine
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    That's why I said "at least".
    Because it's hard already to even get one spell that those I mention would be enough.

    If that were me, I'd ask for Miasma, Shadowflare, Miasma II and Bane to be back.
    I agree with you 100%, I especially miss shadowflare, but their fear of button bloat and needing to leave room for future additions has me doubting ever getting any of them back. Plus the complete shutdown of any complexity returning as per the live letter. They will forever live on my dead ability hotbars though.
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  7. #17
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    I agree with you 100%, I especially miss shadowflare, but their fear of button bloat and needing to leave room for future additions has me doubting ever getting any of them back. Plus the complete shutdown of any complexity returning as per the live letter. They will forever live on my dead ability hotbars though.
    Sage found the way to avoid button bloat thanks to Eucrasia.
    They could have make cleric stance return and swap some spell to gain extra space.
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    Last edited by KDSilver; 11-13-2021 at 08:31 AM.

  8. #18
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Sophia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Note: I am not asking for Scholar to do more DPS than it is currently doing. Were Miasma to come back, the total damage should be distributed to where Scholar is doing relatively the same amount of DPS as before.
    What's wrong with one healer doing more damage anyway? This is a game where you can switch your job instantly. Need the big heals, go WHM. Need regens, go AST. SGE has its nuke+heal thing, and scholar could just shield, have the weak fairy regen, and do DOTs.
    I feel like there's room there for hybrids like that. With 4 healer jobs, not each of them has to function the same.
    I can see why tanks have been homogenized to a degree, but I don't think that's necessary for the healers, as long as the bases are covered.
    A strong ST, a regen, an AOE, an instant. That's what ALL heals in this game fall under anyway.

    Could even add some more healing to DNC while you're at it, then you have a DPS with some healing, a healer with some DPS. Paladin can already heal the party/main tank. Add a healer that can offtank some trash (sort of like a D&D Cleric), and we have it all.
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  9. #19
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    Zohaha Zoha
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    Ravana
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    White Mage Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
    What's wrong with one healer doing more damage anyway? This is a game where you can switch your job instantly. Need the big heals, go WHM. Need regens, go AST. SGE has its nuke+heal thing, and scholar could just shield, have the weak fairy regen, and do DOTs.
    I feel like there's room there for hybrids like that. With 4 healer jobs, not each of them has to function the same.
    Sure, but if I want to play SCH and get told to go SGE for more DPS, that's not a situation that I would be happy with. Particularly as SCH is the only 80 I have thus far.
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  10. #20
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    Laria Kirin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I don't understand this obsession with dots. I'd much rather have something interesting involving the fairy instead of another occasional Broil replacer.
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