Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
*Possible Spoilers follow*

Loved this game the past several months ive done it. Even the stuff some people claim was tedious. Loved ARR and even the post quests. Pugged coils, Loved Stormblood, as im a sucker for a revolution story. Shadowbringers MSQ blew me away.

What is this Nier raid?? You meet some lalafels with beards, and behind a hidden mine there is basically a city no one knew anything about with A.I. fighting aliens? What?? It felt so out of place...Apparently this was a crossover with a game called Neir that I have never heard of.

This was also the first raid mechanically I failed so hard at but I think it was more to blame with the aesthetics. The colors and textures literally gave me a head ache. The white floors with the very lightly colored orange markers on the ground were very hard for me to see. It was very hard for me to tell what was going on most of the time. I never died so much in this game yet, it was embarrassing. Im not the best raider in the world but I do have heroic WoW and a little mythic experience.

Anyway, I did some googling and it seems this raid was very highly praised by most of the community, so I expect this to be an unpopular opinion but since day one I said I would be fair to the game when I found both positive and negative. I disliked it so much that if I ever make an alt I will go out of my way to not unlock the place. I hope they dont do something that far out there again.
OP, don't want to assume and this is not meant to sound snarky- your join date on the forum says 2021. Is that accurate for your actual join date? Not throwing shade, but that could be why you feel what you feel.

Basically, every raid is pretty punishing when it's "current tier". Even Labyrinth of the Ancients was tough when it was current. Especially Behemoth, holy crap behemoth...

I also forget when they started giving vulnerability for mistakes, but I guess from 3.0 or 4.0 it used to be "make one mistake and maybe ok, 2 and you're dead"- something mostly continued in Nier.

All that said, I will agree that there was more "going on" during a lot of the major fights, but honestly for me if I had to choose it wasn't really that intense compared to like, the Ivalis raids. Cid was really unforgiving for a while there!

I expect as 6.0 comes and the average player has a higher iLVL, Nier will also become a faceroll.