Dark Knight Megathread

[Warlyx]

just putting a though here

what if DRK stoped using MP as way to limit what u can do ? to me it feels like that mp is what makes the job chaincuffed

funny thing that on PLD u dont feel like MP is there to stop u ... outside not being able to spam clemency / Holy but that makes sense ....

[Shurrikhan]

what if DRK stoped using MP as way to limit what u can do ? to me it feels like that mp is what makes the job chaincuffed

Everything is a limit. If not MP, it'd merely be something else.

MP is just a system that allows for the effects of multiple charges shared between multiple abilities and to have greater uptime dependence.

Sure, EoS/FoS/TBN could instead have a further cooldown or charge system shared between them that Syphon Strike, Blood Weapon hits, and Carve and Spit would each trim some seconds off of, but despite leaving us no longer "cuffed" to MP, it'd just be a less elegant and intuitive display that allows for the exact same gameplay. The alternative beyond that is to simply not have those affordances whatsoever, but then you'd be "cuffed" to the barebone lack of such features, even if you might not so quickly notice them.

You don't notice MP on Paladin for the simple fact that, as of Endwalker (and the removal of Req's MP requirement), it doesn't really amount to anything beyond ensuring that you have enough MP by X minute mark; since you have virtually no reason to use it outside X minute mark, such makes it largely irrelevant.

I would think it would be better to be "cuffed" to at least a flexible spending system like DRK's MP than for its analogs in merely bloated gimmicks a la Requiescat or Continuation, no?

[Duskane]

just putting a though here

what if DRK stoped using MP as way to limit what u can do ? to me it feels like that mp is what makes the job chaincuffed

funny thing that on PLD u dont feel like MP is there to stop u ... outside not being able to spam clemency / Holy but that makes sense ....

I don't think MP is what holds DRK back just the design right now isn't very interesting because of TBN and only MP spenders are Edge/Flood
if they made Shadow bringer a MP spender as your main MP damage spender and Edge was just your buff skill plus TBN having no MP cost it would be a big improvement

[Kaixern]

I don't think MP is what holds DRK back just the design right now isn't very interesting because of TBN and only MP spenders are Edge/Flood
if they made Shadow bringer a MP spender as your main MP damage spender and Edge was just your buff skill plus TBN having no MP cost it would be a big improvement

Speaking about TBN and mp spenders i much prefered the iteration of blackest night in stormblood due to the synergy it created between blood and mana.

By breaking this shield you would have access to a great amount of blood in exchange for a starting amount of mana which was a good gameplay design idea for ressource management so that both of these bars would be linked in a way, thus creating skill synergy.

Now there is really nothing that links them alltogether.

You just use blood weapon and souleater and (and stalwart soul for aoe) and get as little blood as possible with absolutely no interaction created between those two ressources bars nowadays. (from what i recall from before)