Updates to the Prohibited Activities in FINAL FANTASY XIV and Account Penalty Policy

[Deceptus]

Quote possibly one of the most hilariously abusable rules is:



By this logic, someone could join a linkshell or FC with the express intention of reporting people for giggles. Keep in mind, "slightly vulgar" is an entirely nebulous phrase. We have no idea what SE considers "slightly vulgar".

You could also, in theory, purposely ask why we're wiping to try and bait someone into getting themselves reported. All because they specifically said it was <y DPS player> who caused each wipe.

What's even more laughable? They used an FC as an example. Like everyone in an FC has a right to be there?

No.

If you're not a fit for the culture that the FC promotes you get booted. You don't get to make everyone else conform to YOUR sensibilities.

[odioillatino]

If the devs intended people to single pull then there would be walls between each patch. Except that isn't the case, there are walls only after 2-3 packs in most dungeons after 50. If Thancred can tank those packs easily, so should actual people.

Ok, then if the devs intended people to pull all the mobs at the same time, they would put them all together and would pull them at the same time. Instead, only small groups are linked together.

And by the way, I don't pull just one group at the time either. I'm just saying that if a tank feels more comfortable that way, it's 100% their right to do so.

[SnowVix]

This is going to be difficult for most Westerners to adjust to. Keep in mind that in Japan, if there's a problem with group activities not going well, even if it's a single person's fault, they address the group rather than the individual to avoid calling that single person out. Something like "Let's all make sure to avoid [X mechanic]" or "Let's make sure to hide behind the rocks when Behemoth does the Instakill Bomb." would be the proper way to address this from the Japanese point of view. It doesn't surprise me at all that they're doubling down on making language that singles out an individual player prohibited as it's a *major* social faux pas over there.

This is definitely a major social difference, as most people in the US (I don't want to speak on Europe or other areas) would find that passive-aggressive if done too often.

[Nothv13]

This is definitely a major social difference, as most people in the US (I don't want to speak on Europe or other areas) would find that passive-aggressive if done too often.

As a person in the US, this is the most common way I see issues with a single person addressed in any business or school setting if it isn't addressed in private. So I wouldn't say what you say here is true.

[Ayche]

Rules are tested in the court.
Legality is not the same as judiciary.
I doubt most innocent cases will get punished.

[SnowVix]

As a person in the US, this is the most common way I see issues with a single person addressed in any business or school setting if it isn't addressed in private. So I wouldn't say what you say here is true.

Probably regional differences. I'm from the northeast and we tend to be very direct

[Reinha]

And by the way, I don't pull just one group at the time either. I'm just saying that if a tank feels more comfortable that way, it's 100% their right to do so.

The tank can politely ask "can we go one group at a time?" and leave it at that. That's what the rules say. The tank doesn't get to stop playing the role mid pull because someone brought more enemies to the fight. If the healer can handle the extra mobs, there is nothing the tank can do except suggest a slower pace. It only becomes reportable to pull more if it leads to a wipe and happens repeatedly.

[Illmaeran]

This is definitely a major social difference, as most people in the US (I don't want to speak on Europe or other areas) would find that passive-aggressive if done too often.

Nobody does passive-aggressive and roundabout speaking more or better than the Japanese. Reading between the lines is an essential communication skill there. It's ironic since bosses being really strict and aggressive/insulting to subordinates who screw up is common. Lord knows my old manager treated me that way. Outside of work, passive-aggressiveness is considered good manners in many instances to help maintain social harmony. I'm pretty sensitive to "unspoken messages" as far as Westerners go, but I struggled greatly with it over there. Hell, I still have trouble with it at home when my Japanese wife goes hardcore "obtuse" to express displeasure or unhappiness.

[Asari5]

Ok, then if the devs intended people to pull all the mobs at the same time, they would put them all together and would pull them at the same time. Instead, only small groups are linked together.

And by the way, I don't pull just one group at the time either. I'm just saying that if a tank feels more comfortable that way, it's 100% their right to do so.

not 100...more like 25%, there are 4 people in the group

[Theodric]

What's even more laughable? They used an FC as an example. Like everyone in an FC has a right to be there?

No.

If you're not a fit for the culture that the FC promotes you get booted. You don't get to make everyone else conform to YOUR sensibilities.

It's a worrying trend. Surely they're aware that some individuals cause trouble on purpose by deliberately being subversive? It isn't unusual for a specific player to join a FC, turn out to be a poor fit and then cast the blame anywhere but at themselves. Or claim to be offended by something they can easily tune out if they really wanted to.

This, of course, is in addition to the simple fact that many NPC's in the game crack crude jokes themselves. Which in itself is part of the game's charm. Originally, anyway - there's been less over time, I've noticed.