Predict the endwalker healing meta!

[VictoriaLuv]

this why scholar/ast needs have tool kit nerfed hard. cause white mage never be added to the meta

Ast/scholar... Ast/sage meta

white mage is trash always be trash dont expect it to be in any savage cause not viable at all

[Heilstos]

his why scholar/ast needs have tool kit nerfed hard.

Hey Vicotria,

Why nerf 2 Jobs instand of buffing one Job? WHM have there Fanbase (I dont mean Mortex xP He's a WHM traitor who will play sage C: )
I belive a lot of Player use the white magic anyways. And the contant is not so hard to say WHM is not allowed to use. If you make speedkills not but that is not the Point here! Funfact 85% of the toolkit from Sage is the toolkit from the SCH. xD
The Point is like "NERF EVERY HEALER TO MAKE WHITEMAGE GREAT AGAIN!!!"

The question is what is the EW Meta in your Opinion? And not what Healer Jobs should be destroy to comes your wishes meta comes true!
So the Doomspeaking here should stop till the end of the Dragonwarsong or the first Pada. Raid.

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

65% chance of Astro+Scholar, 25% chance of Astro+Sage and 9% chance of Scholar+Sage for the memes. 1% chance of WHM being anywhere outside of prog. Astro is so disgustingly op why would you ever use WHM over it other than WHM having a significantly lower skill floor and ceiling. And even with how janky and/or boring Scholar is it still has Chain Stratagem. Which seemingly may end up being the only thing holding Scholar together, if it isn't the only thing holding it together already, well that and Sacred Soil. 6.1's job changes are going to be exhilarating to see.

Why nerf 2 Jobs instand of buffing one Job? The Point is like "NERF EVERY HEALER TO MAKE WHITEMAGE GREAT AGAIN!!!"?

Powercreep.

[Saefinn]

I think the meta will be: WHM/SGE
My reasoning: I think as AST has less control over it's RNG again it's going to make rDPS a little less consistent and of course Glare spams are an easy consistent DPS, though it is more selfish in terms of DPS, but I think a meta would want more predictability. I feel like there's going to be some redundancy in the shield side of the Pure/Shield heals set up. SGE has better pure healing options than SCH and whilst SCH gets a speed buff, but I feel like it might be used more in progression runs but maybe not meta as every AoE will be avoidable without a SCH in the party and the long recast makes me think it'll be a selective use. And of course SGE has to DPS to heal and can be there to cover shields in any mechanic where that might be useful. Whilst AST can fill this niche enough, I wonder if the randomisation will affect AST DPS contributions enough for WHM to be preferred. Though I think AST is better to play from a 'feel' PoV.
Factors that might subvert my prediction: The randomisation of AST doesn't affect DPS that much then I don't think WHM has an advantage over AST and I think AST benefits well from a more rounded kit, we know WHM's status as the healiest healer is kinda redundant. And if the healing requirement gets boosted enough that shield healing becomes more useful then I think it'd mix things up be bit.

[Aword3213]

this why scholar/ast needs have tool kit nerfed hard. cause white mage never be added to the meta

Ast/scholar... Ast/sage meta

white mage is trash always be trash dont expect it to be in any savage cause not viable at all

WHM may be a liitle underpowered by comparison, but I'm pretty sure WHM will still be viable

Some people just love their job so much that they don't care about skill potencies, especially for thoese world first teir raider. Those minor potencies won't stop them for getting world first

Just look at TPS team, their TEA world first has DRK when it was considered trash among all tanks, and their E12S world first has BRD and WHM.

[Jadkay]

AST + SCH in 8 man content and SGE for 4 man content.

AST + SCH will provide the best heals and utilities for a party in any 8 man content as simple as that. AST can boost dps, SCH can boost dps every 2 min and will still be the king at shielding due to the new passive we will have in EW.

SGE should be the best in 4 man content with at least a decent party. From what I've seen, a lot of aoe DPS + enough heal to keep any decent tank alive. Not much more to say.

[Liam_Harper]

WHM may be a liitle underpowered by comparison, but I'm pretty sure WHM will still be viable

Absolutely. WHM will be "fine".

The only issue is that it'll be "fine" and "viable" while the other healers will be powerhouses.

[HyperiusUltima]

I think the meta will be: AST and SGE


My reasoning: Given how the healer meta has evolved over the years since Heavensward, I've seen a lot of reasons why it's difficult to balance healers in a way that doesn't step on another job's toes in terms of functionality.

AST from HW to SB was an example with it being "White Mage with Cards" so to speak. SGE is basically the DPS form of a Healer - except when they decided to split healers into 'pure' healers and 'shield' healers. What they wound up with SGE was a hybrid Healer due to its ability to shift between two different stances that can change up how you heal in a given situation.

One problem that does present itself however is how SGE actually has better tools than SCH. If we're basing off of what XIV's general composition is supposed to be, then that only leaves the four healers competing with their separate counterparts. This presents a problem for SCH due to its lacking functionality(outside of fairy AI improvements in the Media Tour) and lackluster ability additions. Virtually, SCH only got 2 Tools. Two. And only one is possibly impactful for Tank Busters.

Unless they plan to address this in a hotfix a la SB WAR style, I don't see SCH ever getting much play in high-end. SGE on the other hand has tools that actually are better than SCH's in some places, such as not having to ground target for a 10% Mitigation effect, and also the fact that Pneuma heals, does DPS, and provides mitigation all at the same time which is very effective as a heavy CD. Then there's the application of Haima and Panhaima, which restore the effects of the 150 potency shield up to 5 times, which adds up to 750 potency worth of shields for raid-wide spam. There's too much good to pass up SGE for SCH in the meta.

As for AST, I would say that the changes that were brought to it were welcome in bringing back SB card functionality in a way with Lord/Lady, as well as providing a system that rewards for good card play that isn't a heavy requirement for AST's performance compared to Shadowbringers. Against WHM, AST has strong oGCDs to use over WHM's large heals; the other fact that WHM's Thin Air was nerfed back down to earth makes it more difficult for them to be MP efficient, while AST now has strong MP regeneration via their new self-mechanic.

But that's not what breaks the camel's back - Macrocosmos is just on paper. The fact they gave AST HP Storage is one of the strongest aspects you can give to a job when you're dealing with multiple raid-wides at once that hit for at least 50% of your Max HP and 65% of DPS' Max HP. This is far stronger than anything Benediction could give you, as sure, you can heal the damage from the raid-wide, but when it comes to HP storage you could heal it up, then take more damage, then burst heal for your Max HP.


Factors that might subvert my prediction: Macrocosmos' functionality. We need to see how the system actually works because just being on paper isn't enough to understand the stipulations of it. One of my speculations was that if a Tank took a 300k Tank Buster, that 150k could be spread across the party - but that's the thing. We don't know if it's individual.

If Macrocosmos' functionality is individual, then the strength of it is different and AST is very close to the same level as WHM's CD Suite, especially since WHM now has a flower they can pop out of the ground for big heals that pulse every time they're hit(and heal at the end).

[Renathras]

AST/SCH has the most buffs and raid DPS utility as a result. If AST is tuned correctly to not be underpowered, AST/SCH will be "meta", though exchanging a WHM for AST will also be functional and WHM will be meta for progression as well as probably the go-to healer for when your party is ready to try for solo heal clears.

Sage is the one I'm not sure about. It seems to largely mirror SCH's kit, but I'm not sure it has as much utility. It will probably be a bit easier to play, which might make WHM/SGE your prog mega, but it's hard to say right now if it will be in practice or not.

WHM will still probably be the most common healer played and the easiest/most approachable, though there will likely be a lot of Sages for people that want to pick up healer but don't want to go through 60-90 levels.

[Sebazy]

WHM will be meta for progression as well as probably the go-to healer for when your party is ready to try for solo heal clears.

WHM has historically struggled with solo heals in Savage and Ultimate thanks to lacking group mitigation options. AST will continue to be the leader here thanks to Neutral sect and a mighty MP economy.