Do You Think FF XIV Will Start Getting The Hate WoW Gets Because of The Cash Shop?

[Larirawiel]

what's a cash shop you mean the optional items you can choose not to buy? .. that cash shop

Errm, please do not underestimate the effect of a cash shop. If the cash shop will become the main cash cow of a game then the company will put more resources to it. This means smaller expansions and smaller content patches but more store mounts or store emotes or other "services" etc. This is a rational business decision but almost never healthy for a game.

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[Catwho]

Errm, please do not underestimate the effect of a cash shop. If the cash shop will become the main cash cow of a game then the company will put more resources to it. This means smaller expansions and smaller content patches but more store mounts or store emotes or other "services" etc. This is a rational business decision but almost never healthy for a game.

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And yet Yoshi P complained quite recently in the media tour that the EW expansion is about 30% longer, story and dialog wise, than Shadowbringers was.

[_Koneko_]

Errm, please do not underestimate the effect of a cash shop. If the cash shop will become the main cash cow of a game then the company will put more resources to it. This means smaller expansions and smaller content patches but more store mounts or store emotes or other "services" etc. This is a rational business decision but almost never healthy for a game.

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there is barely anything in the cash shop other then a few character outfits or things that belong to other games like the ff 7 bike granted I'm a bit of a whale but honestly there disappointedly little in the shop you can't even buy lyse's stormblood intro outfit that many people wanted i'm not saying wrong i'm merely saying from the pov of someone who has whaled in many mmos over my nearly 40 years of life this cash shop is not even worth talking about

now if it was BDO or Blizzard level of cash grab i'd agree with you

[Sotaris]

Errm, please do not underestimate the effect of a cash shop. If the cash shop will become the main cash cow of a game then the company will put more resources to it. This means smaller expansions and smaller content patches but more store mounts or store emotes or other "services" etc. This is a rational business decision but almost never healthy for a game.

Cheers

Don't feel this applies to this game, not at this period of time anyways.
But if we talk in general among the industry, you're correct. A company will make more money short-term by having a agressive monetization through a microtransaction store-front, like Blizzard and most F2P games. I think the only two F2P games that I think of doing it right is foremost Path of Exile and Warframe, but I'm not 100% about Warframe since I haven't played that game in years but Path of Exile I'm still playing on and off.

[MilkieTea]

Don't feel this applies to this game, not at this period of time anyways.
But if we talk in general among the industry, you're correct. A company will make more money short-term by having a agressive monetization through a microtransaction store-front, like Blizzard and most F2P games. I think the only two F2P games that I think of doing it right is foremost Path of Exile and Warframe, but I'm not 100% about Warframe since I haven't played that game in years but Path of Exile I'm still playing on and off.

I feel like this is the operative term here. Short-term. SE's cash shop is noninvasive and allows for players to completely ignore it - no advertisements other than the most basic of ones on the loading screen and nothing in-game to lead players to it. It's also nearly impossible to purchase anything from the cash shop without gates in the way at every step. Their monetisation model is the complete opposite of aggressive, and it's quite obvious that they're not interested in the short-term but in the long-term success and profitability of the game.

[Vahlnir]

Don't feel this applies to this game, not at this period of time anyways.
But if we talk in general among the industry, you're correct. A company will make more money short-term by having a agressive monetization through a microtransaction store-front, like Blizzard and most F2P games. I think the only two F2P games that I think of doing it right is foremost Path of Exile and Warframe, but I'm not 100% about Warframe since I haven't played that game in years but Path of Exile I'm still playing on and off.

With Warframe they allow players to grind for most everything, including the premium currency, without having to pay a single dollar. The grinds tend to range from "eh, not bad" to "OH MY GOD WHY?" in intensity, which encourages players to buy Platinum (the premium currency). Without it things can be a bit rough and take a lot longer. Platinum makes things a lot more enjoyable, in my opinion. It's probably the only free to play game I don't mind throwing money at for multiple reasons.

[kaynide]

Errm, please do not underestimate the effect of a cash shop. If the cash shop will become the main cash cow of a game then the company will put more resources to it. This means smaller expansions and smaller content patches but more store mounts or store emotes or other "services" etc. This is a rational business decision but almost never healthy for a game.

Cheers

Aside from their initial offerings and old event items, the things made in the cash shop are 100% funded by things purchases made in the cash shop. In addition, 100% of cash shop profits go right back into the game. So yes, while some of the profits are allocated for new cash shop items, a large chunk of it goes towards QoL or things that the community wants but not necessarily high priority to the devs.

The biggest example being the last wave of housing wards.

[Larirawiel]

Aside from their initial offerings and old event items, the things made in the cash shop are 100% funded by things purchases made in the cash shop. In addition, 100% of cash shop profits go right back into the game. So yes, while some of the profits are allocated for new cash shop items, a large chunk of it goes towards QoL or things that the community wants but not necessarily high priority to the devs.

The biggest example being the last wave of housing wards.

OK, then it sounds good. I am very sceptical when it comes to cash shops because i know the opposite. When the cash shop became the main cash cow then the devs started to prioritize it. A very good example is WoW. Patch 9.1.5 contains only recycled content ala mage tower. And truly new content assets are in a new cash shop mount.

I hope SQEX will never do such things.

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