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  1. #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Socialization does happen in this game. It doesn't HAVE to happen in dungeons though.



    There are more methods of communication than just typing. This is the same thing I was just saying to Samsara. You can't expect people to type that they want to go faster. Particularly when they can just move or use an ability which clearly signals "can we do more please?"
    My responses were for the other two. I'm all for going faster in a dungeon. But if someone an issue and they can't be bothered to type it out on the on screen keyboard with PS4/PS5 because it's to troublesome and don't want to get a keyboard to make it easier to communicate, that's their issue, not the community's.
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    Last edited by Thamorian; 10-26-2021 at 03:23 AM.
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  2. #212
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    My responses were for the other two. I'm all for going faster in a dungeon. But if someone an issue and they can't be bothered to type it out on the on screen keyboard with PS4/PS5 because it's to troublesome and don't want to get a keyboard to make it easier to communicate, that's their issue, not the community's.
    The op is going on about being friendly. Casual conversation. It’s not entirely about issues. As I said I have a keyboard. If it’s not in front of me it’s cause I don’t have an issue. That’s a good thing. But there are other, indirect ways to communicate. Our species is versatile like that. People shouldn’t be expected to shell out money for something they are hardly going to use.
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  3. #213
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    My responses were for the other two. I'm all for going faster in a dungeon. But if someone an issue and they can't be bothered to type it out on the on screen keyboard with PS4/PS5 because it's to troublesome and don't want to get a keyboard to make it easier to communicate, that's their issue, not the community's.
    Eh, no. If you can't read someone without them having to spell it out to you, that sounds like a you problem.

    I play on PC and even I don't always feel like stopping to talk. If I start moving forward towards the next set of mobs and start jumping continuously, tanks understand what I'm trying to indicate and run to pull the next group. I shouldn't need to say "come here and pull". Jumping in the game in group content is synonymous with "come here".

    And no, sometimes talking is not the most effective way to communicate. A lot of people don't look at chat unless there is downtime. And how would that work if you're doing any boss fight/trial with a new person? You don't have time to communicate with words where they should be. So you run to the right spot and jump like crazy hoping that they notice in time.

    Communication doesn't just have to mean words.
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  4. #214
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    No it really doesn’t. I can get through this game without a word.
    You can but at this point you 0lay a realy bad solo game. Ff14 as any mmo is trash compared to a good solo rpg.
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  5. #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Socialization does happen in this game. It doesn't HAVE to happen in dungeons though.



    There are more methods of communication than just typing. This is the same thing I was just saying to Samsara. You can't expect people to type that they want to go faster. Particularly when they can just move or use an ability which clearly signals "can we do more please?"
    Not really typing is where it is. Now to say hi you can use an emote and it be as good. But most are not as good at mind reading as you.
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  6. #216
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    People refusing to get a keyboard to type out an issue they are having, thats their problem then. Not allowed to complain if you don't want to communicate.
    That's kinda disingenuous, purposefully obtuse or unintentionally. Communicate is a very broad and general term.

    When I rescue a tank to another mob pack am I not communicating that I want bigger pulls? If a dps pulls a mob are they not communicating they want bigger pulls? If everyone does their job I.E. Healer keeps everyone alive, Tank has all the aggro, DPS burn things down theoretically everything would work fine in a vacuum so unless those pulls actually cause a wipe there isn't a problem.
    No communication is needed unless you fail, sabotaging your group because of some misguided sense of purpose does not count. Do your job.
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    Last edited by Nethereal; 10-26-2021 at 04:48 PM.

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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  7. #217
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    Rushing? You do have to consider many players don't have all day to play this game. They have kids or jobs to attend to. So they do big pulls in dungeons to be able to squeeze the most playtime possible. Also if you play tank and you do single pulls don't expect people to like that, because tanks and healers even with average gear are able to clear dungeons in a fast and efficient way without any troubles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    That's kinda disingenuous, purposefully obtuse or unintentionally. Communicate is a very broad and general term.

    When I rescue a tank to another mob pack am I not communicating that I want bigger pulls? If a dps pulls a mob are they not communicating they want bigger pulls? If everyone does their job I.E. Healer keeps everyone alive, Tank has all the aggro, DPS burn things down theoretically everything would work fine in a vacuum so unless those pulls actually cause a wipe there isn't a problem.
    No communication is needed unless you fail, sabotaging your group because of some misguided sense of purpose does not count. Do your job.
    Actually communication is a set term. There can be different ways to communicate. But in a game in order for people to get you correctly there 2. Chat or emotes.
    When I rescue a tank to another mob packb you force it not communicating. You Skip nthis part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctisnine View Post
    Rushing? You do have to consider many players don't have all day to play this game. They have kids or jobs to attend to. So they do big pulls in dungeons to be able to squeeze the most playtime possible. Also if you play tank and you do single pulls don't expect people to like that, because tanks and healers even with average gear are able to clear dungeons in a fast and efficient way without any troubles.
    Read what I did say in the posts here . I am sick to say the same things over and over.
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  10. #220
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    That's kinda disingenuous, purposefully obtuse or unintentionally. Communicate is a very broad and general term.

    When I rescue a tank to another mob pack am I not communicating that I want bigger pulls? If a dps pulls a mob are they not communicating they want bigger pulls? If everyone does their job I.E. Healer keeps everyone alive, Tank has all the aggro, DPS burn things down theoretically everything would work fine in a vacuum so unless those pulls actually cause a wipe there isn't a problem.
    No communication is needed unless you fail, sabotaging your group because of some misguided sense of purpose does not count. Do your job.
    Rescuing a tank like that is actually griefing and probably against the ToS.
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