Are some jobs 'too feminine' in aesthetics?

[Wasselin]

There is nothing inherently feminine about a flowing dress or anything about it that naturally fits or flatters a woman and not a man, we've assigned "dress" as a feminine because in western culture for recent history only women wear dresses/robes.

I'm all for more options, but actually making the same piece of gear gendered so it looks different on men and women takes options away it doesn't add them.

[Risvertasashi]

There is nothing inherently feminine about a flowing dress or anything about it that naturally fits or flatters a woman and not a man, we've assigned "dress" as a feminine because in western culture for recent history only women wear dresses/robes.

I'm all for more options, but actually making the same piece of gear gendered so it looks different on men and women takes options away it doesn't add them.

Eh. There's a reason there's unisex T shirts and then womens' cut T shirts. One is meant to fit the curves of a specific body type.

I'm not saying don't wear what you like of course. And unisex robes and such do exist. But pretending women's clothing is never tailored to fit the features of a specific body type... well, just isn't true.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

There is nothing inherently feminine about a flowing dress or anything about it that naturally fits or flatters a woman and not a man, we've assigned "dress" as a feminine because in western culture for recent history only women wear dresses/robes.

I'm all for more options, but actually making the same piece of gear gendered so it looks different on men and women takes options away it doesn't add them.

Lets say you did remove any sort of gender fit from the clothes. If you were to put a robe that fit a typical male on me ykno how it would fit? It would be HELLA tight round my bust and then probably flow down in a swathe and swallow me whole covering the rest of my figure, I guess you gave me another option.. but it also sucks aesthetically imo. Big bewbies and wider hips are feminine, women have them. It is feminine. There is nothing wrong with clothing suiting one side better than the other, we can acknowledge that it can also be worn by males but not every male DESIRES to do so. Some would like the option to have extra choices beyond a robe. Simple as that.

You can argue all you want that nothing is inherently anything, perception is what we make it. But through history men and women have had different attire, more recently we are bridging that gap and its great that people can express themselves more freely but the fact is esp in modern clothing, some things were made for a specific gender in mind and it shows. The frills on the side of the WHM attire is very much a more feminine style, I would bet they started that concept art on a female character then made it fit to a male body type afterwards. I would love for my healer and caster to have less SKIRTS since the female version of a lot of glamour ends up as some sort of skirt when I would rather trousers, a change is nice. Give us the option.

[Ath192]

There is nothing inherently feminine about a flowing dress or anything about it that naturally fits or flatters a woman and not a man, we've assigned "dress" as a feminine because in western culture for recent history only women wear dresses/robes.

I'm all for more options, but actually making the same piece of gear gendered so it looks different on men and women takes options away it doesn't add them.

I disagree, I think by making the same piece of gear look different and appeal to majority of the audience of that gender is indeed the best solution. I think compromises need to be made and the dev team has done an excellent job and continues to work at making some pieces traditionally made for one gender equipable by both whenever they see fit and or have a chance.

Now if they had unlimited resources of course it would be great, but, noone has unlimited resources, and so mass appeal with small concessions is the best course of action, and imo, apparently the one they have taken. If I'm being honest if I chose to fantasia into a male character I would like to have lots of traditionally cool male looking armor, instead of all my female miqote glams available but in a male body.

I do hope the conventional male attires get more representation in this game because I also agree it's over feminized sometimes. While I love it, because im a female miqote, I can also see it is objectively unfair to traditional guys who just want to be a dude, wearing stereotypical dude things.