Living Dead Is a Problem. should be removed or reworked.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Sorry, I can’t hear you over my triple legend, and the fact that you haven’t bothered leveling up most jobs to 80 at this point. Please go touch grass.

Totally unrelated to w/e ur arguing over. Why is them "not bothering" to level everything to 80 a bad thing? And then why do they need to touch grass if they have played less already by not leveling everything to 80, they are more likely to have touched said grass than you if you 80'd everything? Leveling every job to 80 is not mandatory to be allowed to comment on the jobs you play o.0 I have everything at 80 but going forward unless there is another mount tied to all jobs at 90 I am just gonna ignore DRK and not level it. The job sucks rn and will continue to suck for me in EW.

[MilkieTea]

Totally unrelated to w/e ur arguing over. Why is them "not bothering" to level everything to 80 a bad thing? And then why do they need to touch grass if they have played less already by not leveling everything to 80, they are more likely to have touched said grass than you if you 80'd everything? Leveling every job to 80 is not mandatory to be allowed to comment on the jobs you play o.0 I have everything at 80 but going forward unless there is another mount tied to all jobs at 90 I am just gonna ignore DRK and not level it. The job sucks rn and will continue to suck for me in EW.

Victoria has a history of displaying a distinct lack of knowledge on whatever they post about, and instead of accepting that they're wrong they insist that they're right and they 100% know exactly what they're talking about. It's 100% related to the topic at hand that they don't have much to 80, since they claim such an intimate knowledge of every job they post about.

The touch grass comment is in regards to them angrily flooding the forums with multiple threads on the same subject whenever they're disagreed with. This has been going on for nearly a month. We're fed up. They're spamming, threatening forum bans, allegedly making alts to agree with themselves, and generally making a nuisance of themselves.

[Mikey_R]

In Heavensward when DRK had different mechanics it had to maintain darkside which would slowly drain their MP meter and the only way to recover it was syphon strike and carve and spit,

And Blood Weapon and Blood Price and Sole Survivor.

[VictoriaLuv]

Came here to congratulate OdinelStarrel for their TEA clear always glad to see people climb that mountain.

Also hi again OP. Are you enjoying being a living strawman? How exactly do you take a well-accepted opinion (living dead needs a change) and end up with so much opposition? You are quite fascinating I have to say.

sense your reply very funny to me. being strawman? nay i way better then then most of these people probably bought class boosts of mogstation over just had easy road to 80 never play those jobs again, so they can actually sound big. hot when actually there not. they don't log on every day working hard on there job. know anything bout there job. trying sound superior to everyone else. they themselves are just newbie with lot money. hey thank you thought. cause your investments. you making squire-enix people get paid. and expansions made. anything thinks for that.

also don't care bout opposition. devs really should deal with how soft this community has become or how they cant handle someone different opinion and doesn't care about there nothing you say can change what i feel or say gonna say it if hurts there feelings. aw poor baby cry me river. I dealt with bullies before. and never cower to them.

[MilkieTea]

sense your reply very funny to me. being strawman? nay i way better then then most of these people probably bought class boosts of mogstation over just had easy road to 80 never play those jobs again, so they can actually sound big. hot when actually there not. they don't log on every day working hard on there job. know anything bout there job. trying sound superior to everyone else. they themselves are just newbie with lot money. hey thank you thought. cause your investments. you making squire-enix people get paid. and expansions made. anything thinks for that.

also don't care bout opposition. devs really should deal with how soft this community. cant say something remotely offensive. without someone being SJW.

straw man
/ˌstrô ˈman/

- an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

Examples of a straw man:

If someone says “I think that we should give better study guides to students”, a person using a strawman might reply by saying “I think that your idea is bad, because we shouldn't just give out easy A's to everyone”.

Closer to what's been going on, I'll take an example from your other thread:

If someone says "I think healers should be given something to do during downtime, like a 123 DPS rotation," a person using a strawman might reply by saying "I think your idea is bad, because no one should be forced to study a 12-button rotation"

What you've done in this reply, is a mixture of an ad hominem and a strawman - instead of arguing against the points, you've decided to create a fake character and attack this character.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Victoria has a history of displaying a distinct lack of knowledge on whatever they post about, and instead of accepting that they're wrong they insist that they're right and they 100% know exactly what they're talking about. It's 100% related to the topic at hand that they don't have much to 80, since they claim such an intimate knowledge of every job they post about.

The touch grass comment is in regards to them angrily flooding the forums with multiple threads on the same subject whenever they're disagreed with. This has been going on for nearly a month. We're fed up. They're spamming, threatening forum bans, allegedly making alts to agree with themselves, and generally making a nuisance of themselves.

Yeah I have seem them ranting at us healers over in healer sub section too. I think they are flat out wrong but I didn't pay huge attn to them beyond that xD Not worth engaging with them if they act in such a way.

[Kalocin]

Since Dark Knight has the whole shadow summon going on why not making Living Dead just be a shadow summon (make it Myste or something I dunno) that takes damage for you up to a certain % of your hp or something. It's kind of the inverse of requiring heals and allows it to be useful for all kinds of content. I'm sure there's probably a better implementation of the idea but it'd be thematic and different from the other invulnerability stuff

[MellowMink]

Something that I accidentally left out from my earlier comment is that there's also already a more organized thread about Living Dead that includes a list of problems and is regularly updated: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...d-Problem-List

I recommend that more attention be instead directed to there going forward, especially since the development team is more likely to read through a mega-thread that has solid grammar, healthy discussions, more comments, and no noticeable harassment from the creator of the thread (and as of me writing this, nowhere else across said thread either).