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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    That's dodging my question and irrelevant to it. Do you support tanks having their DPS options becoming 1 or 2 buttons? Healers do more damage than you, so why do you get to have more actions than we do to accomplish less DPS?
    Asking if I support tanks having a one or two button dps rotation (enmity rotation, actually) is the same as asking if you support a healer with one or two healing buttons. You do see that, don't you? Your metaphor makes no sense in this context. One or two wouldn't be enough to fulfill the role. Dps options for healers on the other hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    That's dodging my question and irrelevant to it. Do you support tanks having their DPS options becoming 1 or 2 buttons? Healers do more damage than you, so why do you get to have more actions than we do to accomplish less DPS?
    Healers are not tanks don't even compare them as same. don't even put them in same catagory that mentally is false. most tanks have 1.2 aoe rotation with weaving damage = enimity = as long tank stance is active and they have hit targets 2-3 times they have perma threat

    Healers however vast majority of them. need to focus on healing. not dps. you have 8 people to heal. running around willy nilly not only do have heal them you have buff them as well. watch should be the case. but people complaining bout downtime. adding more dps abilities isn't it. if the game too easy for these people perhap they should make it so hard that dont have any breathing time at all

    What they should do is what there doing adding buffs . targetable buffs. support abilities and making content harder so that dps window isn't big at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    Asking if I support tanks having a one or two button dps rotation (enmity rotation, actually) is the same as asking if you support a healer with one or two healing buttons. You do see that, don't you? Your metaphor makes no sense in this context. One or two wouldn't be enough to fulfill the role. Dps options for healers on the other hand...
    One or two WOULD be enough to fulfill the role. After all, tanks should be tanking. You need to hit your mitigations and make sure you're tanking the damage from the boss. We should give tanks more mitigation buttons for them to be pressing in the fights. You wouldn't believe how many tanks I see who are focused on DPS and never hit any of their mitigations. After all, if it's bad when healers do it and reason enough for healers to not have more varied DPS options, the exact argument applies equally so for tanks.
    You say that one or two wouldn't be enough to fulfill the role. Why? You do less damage than healers do. Is it because you wouldn't have fun if you were spamming Unmend over and over in a fight, even if they buffed the potency of it? So why is that suitable for us? Do you think you're the only one who deserves to have fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    Asking if I support tanks having a one or two button dps rotation (enmity rotation, actually) is the same as asking if you support a healer with one or two healing buttons. You do see that, don't you? Your metaphor makes no sense in this context. One or two wouldn't be enough to fulfill the role. Dps options for healers on the other hand...
    Actually spamming unmend is more than enough to hold aggro, in fact its even more effective than doing your dps rotation because it has increased enmity
    Your job as a tank is only only to hold aggro and mitigate damage. So obviously you only need unmend, and not hard slash, syphon strike, soul eater, flood of shadow, edge of shadow, plunge, carve and spit, bloodspiller, quietus, stalwart soul nor living shadow. Hell you dont even need unleash, bring back flash so you can focus on your real duty. Do you have ADD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    I hate it here.
    Amen, my friend, lol.
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    By that logic two buttons would be enough for all classes. Who needs diversity?

    But that's not what you really want. You want a white mage that go full super saiyan and do the work of a black mage, too.

    Dark knights have a full kit to support themselves in and out of dungeons and so do healers, but in groups they have a specific role and they are given a wide range of abilities to make it possible. Same goes for healers, BUT WAIT healers can do more. They have a massive amount of healer spells AND they can even add dps. But for some, even that singularly unique trait that no other class apart from healers can claim, that just doesn't seem to be enough.

    Tanks who heal? Nope. Dps that tank? Nope. Tanks who dps? Barely. Dps that heal? Barely.

    Healers who dps? Absolutely, and far better than tanks but NOT GOOD ENOUGH?!
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    Last edited by Drkdays; 10-24-2021 at 01:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    I hate it here.
    I suggest you run. It's gonna get only worse from here on out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    By that logic two buttons would be enough for all classes. Who needs diversity?
    im glad you found the flaws in your own logic
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    Glare Mages

    Be Quiet.
    The Devs already told them the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    im glad you found the flaws in your own logic
    If you stop reading after the first sentence you'll never graduate.
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