I'm gonna say it. cause no one else will.

[VictoriaLuv]

Glare Mages

Be Quiet. I do not care if my rotation 2 buttons long. glare and dia. thats good enough for me. I find enjoyment in the white-mages healing. watch most of you should . but all i hear whining, crying wanting I want more dps abilities. you forget what job you play. they got rid of most useless ability in game finally they listened got rid of fluid aura. cause that ability was god awful.

you are a heal-er. your goal is offer heals and team support. your not a DPS-er this should never be your primary focus. what ive gathered its mostly these high end raiders what to have complex dps rotation. not gonna happen. you want that go play sage even yoshi-p said so himself. not saying shouldn't dps but am saying that are job shouldn't focus on it. making healing and supporting engaging is should always be primary focus to healer jobs. we offer support. we are not killers we have enough spells help us survive. but we are not should not be next gen dps job.

what do you think gonna happen if they add another dps ability. how you gonna teach new players people new to game want to enjoy the game. how to a 12-22 button rotation on a healer. all i hearing selfish people people who played healer for so long. they forget they themselfs was new once upon a time. and dont care how it will damage the game. as long they enjoy the game dispense of others. then let ask you why do you play healer again. to have max parce out dps people in your raid. are you serious. please roll dps if want that fine much more funner playing something meant for parcing, then something meant for healing

when you play white mage class design should be. you heal you buff heal really really big. drop massive heal bombs and big really nice defensive cooldown buffs. on the target. yes! good direction white mage needs utility. you should find your thrills in your healing not your dps. and in endwalker they went right path. they are giving us buffs. put on other ppl. we dont have any useless ability in are kit. atm only things need be twinked. even are cure spell now is 500 potency. watch is 50 potency lower then cure III watch made medica 400 potency this is massive ok. medica + planery

so many different button combos that you can use now with your healing. just have get out of your old ways. and see that alot you can do with healing spells


Scholars
Be Quiet. you been in every static raid ever sense heavenward. making no room for white-mage cause taking white-mage static. isn't ideal. its always been sch/ast. do not know what you were expecting. why should you have more dps opinions when already have more then white-mage. your healing ability is fine played it 80 did raids normal content as a scholar. there nothing wrong with your job. only issue is the pet itself its jankiness. it heals fine

now you get 180% sheild heal. do have any idea how strong that is when it crits. thats 360% shield heal that shield equilvant to 60-75% hp pool

Is scholar broken no, is scholar hard for most new players your darn right it is. but if keep practicing the job you realise job itself actually pretty good

Astro
I swear I do not understand squire-enix's need to make this job so bloody busted. mostly do to its utility. when utility something buffs damage directly is seriously over powered this makes this job must have any static cause more damage means faster clears. adding buffs ins good things dont get me wrong ones buff direct damage to whole party is something all healers should have. not just one cause then have issue like this
where its go ast or go bust yet no one sees imbalance in this perfectly fine. what about other healers what go do end game content what about them. we don't care about play another job concept..


They need to 7.0 take each healer retoon and rebalance them. they need ask what skills should be harmonized watch one shouldn't
we have roll skills for reason these skills are skills we share with all other healing jobs

class identity should be defined by class jobs skills themselves.

when you have abilities all healers remotely do the same. then those skills belong in role skill. then taking up space inside the job. what should be role skills

- Esuna - Esuna having small heal attached to it
- Esuna II - aoe version of Esuna with aoe heal attached to it
- Swift cast -
- Divination- aoe damage increase 6-8
-Raise-
-Surecast- has new additional effect: healing spell you cast will crit.
- Rescue-
- Lucid dreaming -

[Grimoire-M]

Shh, be quiet.

[Semirhage]

Glare is boring. Next.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

You don't pay my sub!

[MilkieTea]

No. Please stop with these threads. Genuinely. Keep your comments in megathreads, you're flooding the forums and it's entirely needless.

[SaberMaxwell]

And yet I feel if even half of a Healers healing toolkit was necessary to survive content, the glare mages and what have you would still be playing happily while cure-onlies would be quitting to other roles.

[VictoriaLuv]

And yet I feel if even half of a Healers healing toolkit was necessary to survive content, the glare mages and what have you would still be playing happily while cure-onlies would be quitting to other roles.

thats wonderful about ff14. you can switch other jobs. i mained white mage 8 or so years. 3 different character every time played it i loved it. I had to deal with duty finder disasters like everyone else. really bad balance decisions. made by the dev team. whole concept of white mage is to deal big heals massive radius heals. with single/aoe buffing abilities as utility. however ast can heal just as good same as scholar? whats the point then. where is the trade off here. thats so imbalanced you have class buff peoples damage directly and sometimes do it better then white mage.

problem is as long ast can buff peoples damage directly unless they give white-mage equal to its more. no reason for them to nerf thin air but they did

[Doru_Nintendan]

Victoria, I'm not saying this as a troll or hater, I'm saying this out of concern.

I think you need to step away from the forums and FF for a bit. Go and do something relaxing, play another game for a bit, treat yourself to a nice dinner, something at all. Legit, I think you need a break.

[Saefinn]

Given your comments I don't think you've really read why people are complaining.

WHM -> Casting Glare & Dia for 70% of the time is boring as heck. Yes, healing is our job. But if we're going to DPS most of the time anyway, why not make it interesting?
SCH -> Yes SCH has always been OP but it does not alleviate the problem that it's boring now.
AST -> Out of the 3 healers this is the one the devs are doing best with IMO, it's not where it should be and there are problems, but if they iron those out, we can have an example of the kind of compromise that works.


All 3 healers have good healing kits IMO. I think they are interesting in how they work. Great. but most of the time I'm not getting good use of it.

Just give us something interesting to do in our downtime whilst they figure out how to reduce our downtime and only then start removing DPS options when it has been achieved. Else we still just end up DPSing most of the time but we're bored instead.

[CrimsonGunner]

Glare Mages
talk

wow just wow, it must be nice being in a fantasy world believing that is what white mage actually does i would love to be the white mage that actually buff and help teammates with significant support but sadly that is not the case.
let me ask you what defensive buffs you have to help your team? that temperence skill only that is you defensive buff and even that is 180s
support with big heals you say, sure then let me pop that big fat heals but wait it only happens 1-2 times in a fight and its not in a dungeon? so what to do.... i guess spam more heals that is not needed while the rest of the team fights the big bad mobs while i sit on the side watch them do all the work then?

what do you think will happened when one more button or you know what that the fact that your glare button would mean more to you then just press x for damage? suddenly white mages will become giga brain jobs you need an iq of 180 to actually use it? that new healers will see this and say " oh no it has another button i can press when i dont need to heal, OMG IT TOO HARD" ,nope cause when you first play a healer you are on heal bot mode until u grasp healing and once you do what do you think those new players always say afterwards "hmm thats it?i dont have any utility so maybe i have interesting damage? i can only press one button almost an entire run? it lasts till im 80. no way im playing healer its to boring il go play dnc instead or maybe bard, they have dps rotation and support skills"
the reason whm is fun somewhat now is cause you burn lilies to hit that big shinny button called afflatus misery and how you do that by burning lilies during heavy movement cause you have no alternative or during huge pull to pull runs that might challange you for 10 seconds and you get to press them ,but guess what going to happen in EW. i will give you a hint "glare can be used for weaving". next is the EW going forward....that is rich going forward, a few things to pay attention to:

1) nothing was actually change in terms of combos, you still have the same combos ,only now you have glare + ogcd combos the rest is the same only worse cause glare + ogcd exists now.
2) those capstone skill of ours lilybell ,good idea a totem that heals but you know what you need to do to get it to do big juicy heals..... you need to dive head first to an aoe, ask the tank to shriek you instead and get every mob to punch you in the face or pray for a full blown raid aoe phase that last for like 15s in hope to actually be able to use lilybell so yea that is definitely moving forward, moving forward towards death enjoy.

next is aqua veil yea that is protect slapped with a different name only problem is ast has it better ,weaker mitigation but with a side of healing baked into it making it better


and lastly all the other healers asking dps..... try reading the comments really try reading them cause many have said they want more buttons to press. do you need it to be written in a different language cause we can google translate them to you. it was told time and time again they want downtime to be interesting, they said they want more dps options or more buff options or even more debuff options basically they want to have more support in downtime (dps is the easiest to pull, buffs and debuffs need to be considered but also can be done) in the end they want more option but no ignore it cause "wahha,i dont want to press 2 buttons i want 1" ignoring everything they said which is "WE WANT TO DO MORE DURING DOWNTIME :BUFFS,DEBUFFS,DPS OR AT LEAST MAKE THAT DPS MEANINGFULL AND MAKING US DO MORE IN DOWNTIME"

again its good that you love healers but so do we and we wont silence just as you wont.
so in conclusion nope, next