SE FINALLY ANSWERED THE HEALERS COMMUNITY LONG ANSWERED QUESTION

[Beddict]

I think it'd be hilarious to have Yoshi-P prog and farm the first tier of Pandaemonium as a Healer. Don't care which one he picks, just grab a Healer, and only play that. No swapping over to his beloved Black Mage, no doing a single clear and saying it's fine. No no, I want him to sit down, grind out prog, and farm himself BiS on a Healer and then get his honest opinion on end game healing. Does he find it rewarding then? Does he feel engaged with Glare spam? Is there enough outgoing damage to keep the Job engaging? Are players rewarded for good play during downtime? Too bad that shit would never happen.

[Dogempire]

Surprised that there aren't also arguments from some people to reduce the number of DPS actions for tanks by people who are opposed to healers getting even just a tiny bit more variety in the area of optional DPS attacks. After all, tanks should primarily focus on distracting enemies and mitigating damage, right? If tanks want to DPS, then play as a DPS, you know? If tanks get more than a few DPS buttons, then newer players might get scared even after reaching level 80 (soon to be level 90) and playing with the job for dozens to hundreds of hours, and we can't risk having that happen to a single person, so let's punish people who want the skill ceiling (not floor) to be raised. (That was all sarcasm in case that wasn't obvious, by the way.)

...Seriously, why is it that only healer jobs get the short stick when it comes to needing to not scare any players with the least amount of willingness to improve with regards to damage? It's incredibly unfair that healers who want to best optimize their overall performance feel like they're being punished with more boring gameplay as they improve.

Tbf I swapped off of healer to tanking/dpsing as soon as I looked at the Endwalker changes, and if they give tanks the healer treatment then I'm going to only dps.

I don't think anyone with any semblance of skill wants any job to be a 1 button rotation, it's just that there's this loud minority of low to mediocre skill players who want to stay on easy street and insist on healing being this unengaging.

[FoxCh40s]

Tbf I swapped off of healer to tanking/dpsing as soon as I looked at the Endwalker changes, and if they give tanks the healer treatment then I'm going to only dps.

I don't think anyone with any semblance of skill wants any job to be a 1 button rotation, it's just that there's this loud minority of low to mediocre skill players who want to stay on easy street and insist on healing being this unengaging.

And those are the only people they actively listen to.

[Moomba33]

I feel like the devs need to play through the MSQ on a healer. Spamming one button for hundreds of hours of quests and solo duties is not acceptable gameplay.

[FoxCh40s]

I feel like the devs need to play through the MSQ on a healer. Spamming one button for hundreds of hours of quests and solo duties is not acceptable gameplay.

That's an idea as well. Should we legit start this petition?

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Surprised that there aren't also arguments from some people to reduce the number of DPS actions for tanks by people who are opposed to healers getting even just a tiny bit more variety in the area of optional DPS attacks. After all, tanks should primarily focus on distracting enemies and mitigating damage, right? If tanks want to DPS, then play as a DPS, you know? If tanks get more than a few DPS buttons, then newer players might get scared even after reaching level 80 (soon to be level 90) and playing with the job for dozens to hundreds of hours, and we can't risk having that happen to a single person, so let's punish people who want the skill ceiling (not floor) to be raised. (That was all sarcasm in case that wasn't obvious, by the way.)

...Seriously, why is it that only healer jobs get the short stick when it comes to needing to not scare any players with the least amount of willingness to improve with regards to damage? It's incredibly unfair that healers who want to best optimize their overall performance feel like they're being punished with more boring gameplay as they improve.

No thank you. Tanking is very simple, and I quite enjoy my simple Paladin/Dark Knight rotation.

And those are the only people they actively listen to.

False see sage please, it's convoluted and will involve some parsing level high apm raider opener/rotation.

Tbf I swapped off of healer to tanking/dpsing as soon as I looked at the Endwalker changes, and if they give tanks the healer treatment then I'm going to only dps.

I don't think anyone with any semblance of skill wants any job to be a 1 button rotation, it's just that there's this loud minority of low to mediocre skill players who want to stay on easy street and insist on healing being this unengaging.

I personally enjoy one button rotation just saying and I'm not a low skill player by any means. I just need motivation to actually give something at least 50%.

[Dogempire]

I personally enjoy one button rotation just saying and I'm not a low skill player by any means. I just need motivation to actually give something at least 50%.

If you aren't hitting 100% immediately while doing the bare minimum on WHM/SCH then that means that the job is around your skill level

[KDSilver]

Pretty much.

Embrace the Healer DPS hybrid concept
Or
Makes healers have meaningful utility/support in their downtime
Or
Boost healing requirements to a level that healing is engaging in all scenarios
Or
A combination of any of the above

Pressing 1 or 2 buttons for the vast majority of the time is not a feasible option. When I can do a level 80 roulette, lose the healer at the start and reach the last boss without a healer (which is when we got a new one) then a healer's contribution to a party is not really valued by design.

We've been explaining this for about... 6 years through so many arguments and examples and yet...
We're in Endwalker and we're getting a "deal with it".

So...

[Brandedblade]

I think it'd be hilarious to have Yoshi-P prog and farm the first tier of Pandaemonium as a Healer. Don't care which one he picks, just grab a Healer, and only play that. No swapping over to his beloved Black Mage, no doing a single clear and saying it's fine. No no, I want him to sit down, grind out prog, and farm himself BiS on a Healer and then get his honest opinion on end game healing. Does he find it rewarding then? Does he feel engaged with Glare spam? Is there enough outgoing damage to keep the Job engaging? Are players rewarded for good play during downtime? Too bad that shit would never happen.

And say he did do so and had fun? Then what?

[FoxCh40s]

And say he did do so and had fun? Then what?

We're truly screwed.