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    Player VictoriaLuv's Avatar
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    Future White- Mage Abilities

    - Blink -
    Causes All Attacks Made on the target to miss (targetable)
    Duration: 6-7
    Cost: 1 lily
    Additional Effect: Restores MP

    - Reflect -
    Place's a reflective barrier on yourself or someone. nullifying all elemental damage to single attack. changing reflect into the spell you reflected. press it second time you mimic it. and cast it back
    Cost: 1 lily
    Additional Effect: Restores MP

    - Haste - Trait - Presence of Mind can now be placed on everyone in your party. and has 2 charges

    -Temper- Increases targets damage 5% and Direct/crit rate by 3%
    Duration 12 seconds
    cost 1 lily or (600 mp)
    30 second cd

    - Rain of Blossums - Massively Ranged - Heal over time -
    Rains Healing Sakura blossums on the battle feild they gain heal over time
    Additional effect: enemies will all deal 5% less damage
    Duration: 22 secs
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    Last edited by VictoriaLuv; 10-21-2021 at 11:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    - Blink -
    Causes All Attacks Made on the target to miss (targetable)
    Duration: 6-7
    Cost: 1 lily
    Additional Effect: Restores MP

    - Reflect -
    Place's a reflective barrier on yourself or someone. nullifying all elemental damage to single attack. changing reflect into the spell you reflected. press it second time you mimic it. and cast it back
    Cost: 1 lily
    Additional Effect: Restores MP

    - Haste - Trait - Presence of Mind can now be placed on everyone in your party. and has 2 charges

    -Temper- Increases targets damage 5% and Direct/crit rate by 3%
    Duration 12 seconds
    cost 1 lily or (600 mp)
    30 second cd

    - Rain of Blossums - Massively Ranged - Heal over time -
    Rains Healing Sakura blossums on the battle feild they gain heal over time
    Additional effect: enemies will all deal 5% less damage
    Duration: 22 secs
    Blink and Reflect go completely against the current paradigm of the game. At best these would appear in pvp. Reflect would either completely break the game or be so niche as too be useless in most content. Blink could potentially be flavored into a tank invuln if they ever made a 5th tank but as a healer ability that would be too powerful.

    While on Paper the idea of giving others Presence of Mind would be a really nice support option, there is a reason they got rid of haste effects in this game- It ruins rotations. It works perfectly fine for WHM itself because it's actually designed around utilizing it, but throwing that on another class has a fairly good chance of misaligning their own burst and making it worse then better.

    Temper could potentially work, but it would likely have to have it's cooldown increased or one of its effects removed to put it inline with AST cards. With WHM being the pure dps of the regen healers this seems rather unlikely they would ever do this.

    As for Rain of Blossom's. It obviously would be lilies and lily petals if they where to do this. But what else do you want this ability to do? Is it meant to be a WHM version of Macrocosmos where it damages and debuffs the enemy then places a HoT on allies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    In the end, every change, every design choice, is up to the devs. If they decided to go one way with an element of gameplay or a job, acting like they kicked your dog on the forums isn't going to change anything. At some point, you have to cut your losses or you're just wasting energy being so emotionnaly invested into something that won't change.

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    You should really add the caveat that these are abilities you would like to see, your track record has shown you have zero insider info.

    Just looking at the blink skill. It completely invalidates tank busters and is way too overpowered in that instance.

    Presence of mind is way too powerful of a cooldown to be raidwide with two charges, 30 seconds of 30% party wide haste?

    Temper is actually ok.

    And I personally have no comment about about rain of blossoms.
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    Player VictoriaLuv's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    As for Rain of Blossom's. It obviously would be lilies and lily petals if they where to do this. But what else do you want this ability to do? Is it meant to be a WHM version of Macrocosmos where it damages and debuffs the enemy then places a HoT on allies?
    Rain of blossom is really strong aoe heal over time. vastly more powerful then medica II only difference is it doesn't do damage it just debuffs enemies. only issue is that when white mage ya its strong.

    Rain of Blossom is a Field Heal over time. you got it. ]

    you can say that you can turn your lilybell into a healing sakura tree in full blossom. and heals everyone on the field over time. this doesn't really damage enemies but does lower there damage by 5% while giving big bunkly heal over time
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    Last edited by VictoriaLuv; 10-22-2021 at 01:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    only issue is that when white mage ya its strong.
    I don't know what this means.
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    Victoria.

    Dear.

    Do yourself, and everyone here, a favor:

    Sit down, and shut up.

    You've done nothing but flood the healer forum with the most insane and brainless suggestions only proving how little you know about game balance or the game in general. It's, frankly, embarrassing.
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    Eh, I'm all for ideas being thrown around on the boards and even if they aren't the greatest, it's not the greatest look to come down on them like a ton of bricks without at least bringing some fair criticism to the party.

    On the flip side, @Victoria, you kind of sowed the seeds for this with your 'leak' thread. You'll get much better reaction going forward if you're at least a bit clearer that these are your own ideas. Let's face it, anyone who's browsed this section of the board for any amount of time will likely know this anyway so there's really nothing to be gained from trying to mislead people with it.

    Plus on a side note, consider the thematics and balance side of the picture at least a little bit. Branded is spot on with his appraisal. These suggestions would be both game and theme breaking to various degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
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    This is completely unnecessary on my part, but I was inspired to make an attempt at recreating your abilities into something I consider far more likely to occur. You may completely disregard potency values as I did admittedly throw those together hapharzardly.

    First, I'm removing your Reflect and Haste spells and combining weaker versions of Temper and Blink into one new ability.

    -Afflatus Beatify-
    Restores Targets HP
    Potency: 450

    Additional Effect: Increase the rate at which the target deals critical strikes by 3% while granting an additional effect based on role
    Healer: Refresh
    Potency: 30
    Damage: Increase the rate at which targets deal direct hits by 1%
    Tank: Increase parry chance by 5% while reducing damage taken by 2%
    Duration: 12 seconds.

    Additional Effect: Nourishes the Blood Lily
    Healing Gauge Cost: 1 Lily

    While this skill is ultimately flawed for the Same Reason Solace and Rapture is. It will grant minor bonuses to the allies in question. I did intentionally make the effects increase crit to keep it universally useful while trying to keep the role specific bonuses at the point where you may occasionally consider tossing them on other targets in niche situations. I did try to make the tank effect slightly stronger to reduce the punishment of using it to tank heal in dungeon scenarios. I admit that Beatify would potentially make Solace obsolete in all but the most dire of single target healing scenarios so a possible fix could easily be to make these effects a trait that tacks onto Solace.

    For the second skill: I'm reworking your Rain of Blossums spell slightly to be more thematic and line up more with Pneuma and Macrocosmos.

    -Lilybloom-
    120 second recast
    Deal Unaspected Damage with a potency of 310 (or whatever final Glare value is) to the target and 50% less damage to all nearby enemies.
    Additional effect: Reduces the Damage dealt by Target and all nearby enemies by 5%
    Duration: 15 seconds
    Additional Effect: Heal all allies within 25 yalms of the target with a potency of 200
    Additional Effect: Grants Healing over time to all allies within 25 yalms of the target.
    Potency: 150
    Duration: 15 Seconds.

    Essentially making your Rain of Blossoms ability a dps neutral cooldown that also emulates the effects you've described.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    In the end, every change, every design choice, is up to the devs. If they decided to go one way with an element of gameplay or a job, acting like they kicked your dog on the forums isn't going to change anything. At some point, you have to cut your losses or you're just wasting energy being so emotionnaly invested into something that won't change.

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    Another post with a misleading title about WHM speculation again? You didn't learn from the "leaks" thread you made, didn't you?

    Victoria, I'm not gonna lie when I say that I do find your ideas interesting and creative. You do have ideas that could work, BUT only in a different MMO than FFXIV. All your suggestions for every job you talked about are either overly "flashy and engaging" to you and you alone, or are busted in both "this is very powerful" AND "this won't work at all in this game" sort of ways. The fact is that you only care about how you want the job to work, not how it would actually work in line with the balance of the game, or the job's actual theme or role. That's why many people, as well as I, are tired of seeing these speculations you come up with.

    It also doesn't help that you already left a bad impression on the forums with your "WHM 100% True EW Spoilers" thread. A thread in which you showed off skills you WANTED in the game. But when the Media Tour tooltips (and the spoilers that came before them) showed up, it proved you LIED to everyone. And to my knowledge, you still never apologized for claiming that your stuff was completely true. Especially when no one was foolish enough to post potential spoilers before the embargo, ESPECIALLY on OFFICIAL forums that the Developers and GMs read.

    And now you made another thread with another misleading and deceitful title. Just say you're speculating instead of trying to sound like you know the game better than anyone else.

    Please STOP. You're making yourself look even more foolish than you realize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inhaledcorn View Post
    Victoria.

    Dear.

    Do yourself, and everyone here, a favor:

    Sit down, and shut up.

    You've done nothing but flood the healer forum with the most insane and brainless suggestions only proving how little you know about game balance or the game in general. It's, frankly, embarrassing.
    This /tenchar
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