Unpopular Opinion: Make all Jobs DPS with a Defender OR Healer stance...

[TheMightyMollusk]

As a tabletop gaming person, it brings to mind for me how no one ever wants to play the cleric.

Unless it was D&D 3.5. Then clerics were horrifyingly broken. Heavy armor and weapons, insane self-buffs, spontaneous healing whenever you want it, and that's without going into all of the absurd things that came in later splatbooks.

Of course, then nobody wanted me to play the cleric......

[Claire_Pendragon]

I knew no one would like OPs suggestion, but what I didnt expect, is how most ppl are talking about completely different subjects, and still thinking they are talking about OPs subject...

[Kes13a]

I knew no one would like OPs suggestion, but what I didnt expect, is how most ppl are talking about completely different subjects, and still thinking they are talking about OPs subject...

the OP's subject is make all jobs exactly the same just with different stances people can choose.

what exactly would there to be like? so why not talk about completely different things, which are all just as viable given the badness?

[CaptainLagbeard]

If you want to Tank or Heal as a DPS, Bozja has you covered.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I knew no one would like OPs suggestion, but what I didnt expect, is how most ppl are talking about completely different subjects, and still thinking they are talking about OPs subject...

Have you never interneted before?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Go do Save The Queen content and see for yourself how it'll be viewed by the devs who's utterly obsessed with balancing & saturated with anti-meta sentiment.

[Kohl]

I knew no one would like OPs suggestion, but what I didnt expect, is how most ppl are talking about completely different subjects, and still thinking they are talking about OPs subject...

Some people like to talk, but don't know they can start a conversation... maybe? Conversations (d)evolve, it's natural.

First, I don't like this idea either, but I have heard enough Tanks and Healers complain about their damage output (that they should be allowed to do more), and enough people complain about DPS jobs in general that this incredibly rough idea occurred to me out of all those complaints. I never said anything about making the jobs the same. That's a leap, but cool, I didn't care enough to spell that out... and it is the internet, so... meh.

The biggest problem with this idea is that it is basically making it a new game in the same setting. And while I would play that game because I like the setting, it still would require reconfiguring everything, which is just more trouble than it's worth. I like FFXIV (must be why I play it), I like that there will be changes to try to balance things, I like that it feels to individual players that their job is more powerful than the other jobs because they feel at home with its one mechanic that sets it apart. I like healing, I like tanking, I like dps... I like that this game is casual, I have a job that always demands overtime from me.

Anyway, interesting comments everyone. This comment humored me the most:

I rate this troll thread a 5/7

. Nice reference.

[Hysorn]

Some people like to talk, but don't know they can start a conversation... maybe? Conversations (d)evolve, it's natural.

But I have heard enough Tanks and Healers complain about their damage output(...)

I mean, the damage ain't even that bad, I think it's just that the rotations are overall more boring than DPS rotations. "Simple rotations + low damage" is a hell of a lot worse than "Dynamic rotation + low damage".
I mean, I understand why they do it like that, after all, Healers and Tanks are more about paying attention to the fight to keep everyone alive rather than doing some complex rotations to maximize damage done, but still.

[Kohl]

I mean, the damage ain't even that bad, I think it's just that the rotations are overall more boring than DPS rotations. "Simple rotations + low damage" is a hell of a lot worse than "Dynamic rotation + low damage".
I mean, I understand why they do it like that, after all, Healers and Tanks are more about paying attention to the fight to keep everyone alive rather than doing some complex rotations to maximize damage done, but still.

No lies detected, sir. I can't disagree with you. I think this is why I am liking GNB (I feel like I build up to having something of a burst of butt-kicking), but they still do not have a complex rotation of any kind.

[Sililos]

+1 to this idea
Always felt Dancer should have some form of regen buff to the party from their Step dances.

Then there is the method of Healing i loved most in any game, in Neverwinter the clerics add a healing pool to an enemy and any player attacking drains it if they are missing HP.
Was perfect for the whole thing players have here of "Dont be a healer bot, do DPS too."