Dark Knight Megathread

[Shin96]

"Well if you don't like it just play a different job!"
People've done that. People will do that. People have already stated, here and JP, that EW DRK is a letdown and that the devs should look in to ways to improve it. 'Just play something else' is also an incredulously rude tone to take, as you yourself said that there're folks that play it for the cool factor being a DRK provides that, until EW and Reaper's reveal, were unmatched elsewhere.

Don't bother wasting your time on that mantra. Play something else has become the go-to excuse for anyone that cannot critically assess the components of the situation.

It's so simple in essence though. You are a tank, you want an edgy job, optimally it should be sophisticated enough to entertain you. It's not hard to grasp, yet, it seems rather easy to fluctuate towards disregarding any valid criticisms as long as it's comfortable to them. Good thing Reaper is here to join us.

Cult positivity at it again. Let's drown the voice of dissent and distaste for what this job has become; it's easier to ignore than put a sliver of thought into it. That surely will fix this job and the disappointments that will ensue later.

[Ryaduera]

Don't bother wasting your time on that mantra. Play something else has become the go-to excuse for anyone that cannot critically asses the components of the situation.

It's so simple in essence though. You are a tank, you want an edgy job, optimally it should be sophisticated enough to entertain you. It's not hard to grasp, yet, it seems rather easy to fluctuate towards disregarding any valid criticisms as long as it's comfortable to them. Good thing Reaper is here to join us.

Cult positivity at it again. Let's drown the voice of dissent and distaste for what this job has become; it's easier to ignore than put a sliver of thought into it. That surely will fix this job and the disappointments that will ensue later.

I agree. Being content with mediocrity and failure just because something else was better is the enemy. Playing something else is an option, but it is not an excuse nor does it forgive bad design, the bad design subtracts from the experience as a whole. This kind of mentality comes from someone who doesn't play the class to begin with. "But I'm having a good time?????" And we aren't. Your point?

[WhyAmIHere]

Don't bother wasting your time on that mantra. Play something else has become the go-to excuse for anyone that cannot critically assess the components of the situation.

It's so simple in essence though. You are a tank, you want an edgy job, optimally it should be sophisticated enough to entertain you. It's not hard to grasp, yet, it seems rather easy to fluctuate towards disregarding any valid criticisms as long as it's comfortable to them. Good thing Reaper is here to join us.

Cult positivity at it again. Let's drown the voice of dissent and distaste for what this job has become; it's easier to ignore than put a sliver of thought into it. That surely will fix this job and the disappointments that will ensue later.

A larger reason I have issue with the "just play something else" is it's so dismissive of others. "Oh you're depressed? Get over it, you don't have it so bad!" or "Just cheer up!" Wanna get something off your chest about an issue you're having? "Oh it's not so bad." or "Others have it worse, y'know."

I don't know if you're agreeing with me or not, but yup. "I like [thing], so therefore it's fine!" is such a trash argument in general when it comes to wanting something to improve that's panned by the majority. Yet I'm not glib enough to realize I'm putting in way too much effort/energy in to wanting more from something I enjoy, because it's not the only thing. It's just the out and out ignorance from the very developers about this is what's most insulting.

[Shin96]

A larger reason I have issue with the "just play something else" is it's so dismissive of others. "Oh you're depressed? Get over it, you don't have it so bad!" or "Just cheer up!" Wanna get something off your chest about an issue you're having? "Oh it's not so bad." or "Others have it worse, y'know."

It is dismissive, but not just in large part to saying go play something else. We're pushing back against their satisfaction. Except it's grounded in stagnation, not advancements. They like what they have right now.

I don't know if you're agreeing with me or not, but yup. "I like [thing], so therefore it's fine!" is such a trash argument in general when it comes to wanting something to improve that's panned by the majority. Yet I'm not glib enough to realize I'm putting in way too much effort/energy in to wanting more from something I enjoy, because it's not the only thing. It's just the out and out ignorance from the very developers about this is what's most insulting.

I agree. In truth you won't get everything you want but that shouldn't stop people from asking for change. It's a natural process and often times innovations are possible by taking risks.
In my opinion, I think alot of these people don't main this job. "Well.. don't play it!" Easy for you to say. This job never mattered to you over 2 years, you haven't gotten most relics, you didn't play with it everyday. Being anything but a DRK main is the time of your life right now. Shadowbringers is what got me into these forums, just imagine how much you need to screw up for an introvert to be vocal and social about it. They truly messed up, in my opinion. Even more so with 6.0