Are you the loud minority? (Healer feedback)

[Mortex]

Unsure what the heck is going on above me but I shall post one thing here, well perhaps two.





You can go so full ostrich and burry the head so deep in the sand you isekai into FF14 and pop out in Cutters Cry but reality shall remain the same. The only accurate part of vocal minority is that the ones who chose to be vocal are in the minority, everyone else simply quits playing the job without saying things and we wait in 20 minute queues instead.

Funny I find a run for the 24 mans as dps way faster then as a tank or healer. Must be divine prophecy that dps are the best job category. Just because there is a healer icon in front doesn’t mean jack. Because when I look in the dungeon finder I have like 80 % tanks and rest healer and even sometimes dps.

[Deceptus]

Funny I find a run for the 24 mans as dps way faster then as a tank or healer. Must be divine prophecy that dps are the best job category. Just because there is a healer icon in front doesn’t mean jack. Because when I look in the dungeon finder I have like 80 % tanks and rest healer and even sometimes dps.

Because that's simply numbers.

24 mans need more dps than the other roles by a large margin so of course they're going to be easier to fill.

[Claire_Pendragon]

I get why removing cleric stance was necessary since it was really clunky

(I agree with your post, but wanna touch on this, than rant on my own)
They never needed to remove it. They just needed it to stop being clunky lol. Too many spells are 2.5s cast times, which means u have to clip, to swap. This is the 2nd most annoying part about cleric stance. (it would be pretty fun, if u could swap, even mid cast, even though the system isnt designed to handle that)

But the BIGGEST problem, is that you had to wait 6s before you were allowed to heal again... and if "6s to turn off" HAD to stay, thats the OPPOSITE of how it should have been designed. And of course, the BEST way to make it, so everyone ENJOYS the mechanic, is to make it a toggle on and off with NO cd whatsoever!

Had they made QoL changes to Cleric Stance, it would have been fine. (and honestly all tanks/healers throughout SB/ShB changes) but SE is obsessed with throwing away good ideas, because they were implemented annoyingly. "But the players said they didnt like it, so we threw it away".
DRK had to double weave VERY long animation oGCDs, causing clipping. So SE shortened "some" of the oGCDs, and still not enough in many ways. So instead of just fixing it, they completely changed DRK to SB version of DRK, to minimize this problem. Many oGCDs couldnt combo with DA anymore. But DRK was still trying to throw out as much oGCDs as possible, and along with other issues at the time, plenty of ppl complained about DRK. (3.0 players were just upset DRK lost so much, and all they wanted was minor fixes, instead of the stuff being thrown away) and now SE was like, we remade it into the ShB DRK... just press 123 and no more problems! We combined DA and oGCDs into 1 skill, no longer do you need to turn your brain on!

They still mess up a LOT on DPS jobs, but they clearly put far more effort into them, and it shows.

edit: looked up the timer, its 6s, not 12s. idk why i remember 12s lol

[Sunhwapark]

But the BIGGEST problem, is that you had to wait 12s before you were allowed to heal again... and if 12s to turn off

Wasn't the cooldown only like 5 seconds though? It was definitely at least a GCD or 2 which is enough to screw you over if you misclicked it in an emergency, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't as long as 12s, and it did not incur any cooldown when turning the skill off.

[JadedPurity]

That’s what you’re screaming about? A word. One that was used to suggest only that your personal experience isn’t the only truth. That there may be other ways. Never said you were necessarily wrong. Only that it’s not the only correct answer. You can relax now. Calm down. =]

Wow. You need serious help dude. Just reading your responses was cringe level 1000.

[GrimGale]

Do not start a flame war. Or Do not continue it ,please. It doesn't help anybody's cause. Let's stay on topic.

[Silver-Strider]

Wasn't the cooldown only like 5 seconds though? It was definitely at least a GCD or 2 which is enough to screw you over if you misclicked it in an emergency, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't as long as 12s, and it did not incur any cooldown when turning the skill off.

It used to be 12 seconds up but it got changed to be 5 seconds.

[Mortex]

Because that's simply numbers.

24 mans need more dps than the other roles by a large margin so of course they're going to be easier to fill.

Oh pls the result is the same for expert a lot of times. Having actual instant que pops as dps is just hilarious and in this package include in last month is also a healer player who does the bare minimum and semi afk to watch some Netflix or do other stuff.Same for normal raid and trial and also 24 man . The actual skill from any healer I encounter was never this bad before. Healer who are actually go into panic mode when some little unexpected things happen. They don’t do dmg and are pretty much dead if something unexpected happens in the raid, that if we didn’t had red mages or summoners in these groups we would wiped a number of tries.

[Sunhwapark]

It used to be 12 seconds up but it got changed to be 5 seconds.

Ah I see, thank you !

As for the topic at hand, I can't offer much but I would definitely agree and say that my personal enjoyment for healing dependant on the content I'm running. Experienced healers definitely will be likely to get bored the fastest since the only thing they have to learn is the encounter design, and more analytical when choosing ways to optimize themselves to provide as much as they can for their party members. Whereas a 'casual' healer is likely to not be familiar with the timeline of encounters, mechanics 'surprise' them and they may not be all familiar with how potent their toolkit actually is.

I don't really know what to suggest that would be good for healers without disturbing the skill floor/ceiling much, I'd really like to have the addle/virus/disable back on healers though.

[Brandedblade]

Do not start a flame war. Or Do not continue it ,please. It doesn't help anybody's cause. Let's stay on topic.

Considering the average post on this forum, we've been well beyond this.