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    Player VictoriaLuv's Avatar
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    My Complete Scholar Rework -> Suggestions -> Please read

    Level 1 - Logic - unaspected damage with a potency of 160. 30y 1.5 castime with 2.50 cooldown
    Level 2 - Bio - Deals unaspected damage over time.
    Potency: 25. Duration: 60.
    Level 3 - Maisma - potency 30- cooldown 90 seconds- target monster deals 10% less damage duration of the dot: 60 duration of the debuff - 8-12 seconds

    level 4 - Natures Guirdians - summons both eos. and selene at ones one fairy for on left and right shoulder. eos takes care of embracing where selenes takes care of abilities like

    Eos - Abiltiies
    Embrace
    Whispering Dawn
    Fey Blessing

    Selenes Abilties -
    Indignation - Increases healing crit rate on the target by 5% by adding 200+ potency sheild on the target - every 30-60 seconds
    Fey Illumation

    New Trait - Honor Student - changes towards. Lvl6

    Logic -> Logic II - with additional effect restores 100-150 mp per cast as well deal more damage

    Bio -> Bio II - heals you for 1% damage dealt every tick. deals more damage

    level10 Resurrection - simple

    Level 12 - Fey Illumanation

    level 15 - Succor - Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.
    Cure Potency: 220
    Additional Effect: Erects a magicked barrier which nullifies damage equaling 150% of the amount of HP restored
    Duration: 60s

    Level 20 - Whispering Dawn

    Level 26 Ruin - Deals 200 Potency damage to the target. If the target has both Bio and miasma. it will spread there effects up to 3-4 additional targets.

    Level 30 Adloquium - Restores target's HP.
    castime 1.50
    GCD 2.50
    800 MP
    Cure Potency: 400
    Additional Effect: Grants Galvanize to target, nullifying damage equaling 125% of the amount of HP restored. When critical HP is restored, also grants Catalyze, nullifying damage equaling 125% the amount of HP restored.
    Duration: 30s

    Aetherflow Level 35

    Bliss - Level 35
    Off-Global Cooldown- Weaving Heal
    Heals the target for 550 Potency
    Restores 10% of maximum MP.
    Additional Effect: Aetherflow III

    Level45
    Energy Drain - Off-Global Cooldown
    Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 200.
    Additional Effect: Restores 10% of maximum MP.
    Additional Effect: Logic and Art of war abilities grant 5+ fairy gauge for 8 seconds
    Addition Effect: Aetherflow III

    Level 45 Lustrate -
    Restores target's HP.
    Cure Potency: 700
    Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 20
    Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1

    Level 46
    2 Charges
    Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.
    Cure Potency: 500
    Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 20

    Level 47 - Art of War -
    Instant cast
    2.5s
    500 MP
    8y
    Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 160 to all nearby enemies.


    Level 50 Sacred Soil
    2 Charges
    Reduces damage taken all inside by 10-15
    Additional Effect: Regen - 100-150 cure potency
    Additional Effect: Heals made while under the sheild gives you 2-3 fairy gauge

    1-50
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    Victoria. Just stop.
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    Player VictoriaLuv's Avatar
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    this continuations 50-60

    54 Logic -> Broil - Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 240.

    56 Deployment Tactics- the same

    58 Emergency Tactics- the same

    60 Dissipation - the same

    60 Excogitation - Grants self or target party member the effect of Excogitation, restoring HP when member's HP falls below 50% or upon effect duration expiration.
    Cure Potency: 800
    Duration: 2mins
    Cost 25+ Fairy Gauge instead of aetherflow
    60 Unlock Fairy Gauge

    Level62 Disspation - Places a Sheild on the target equal 100% of there max HP while increasing the healing done and recieved by 20% giving full aetherc urrent stacks. you this removes fairy from battle feild to equilvant to 60 second cooldown. really debating if this ability should have benediction cooldown sense it does what benedition does just gives a sheild instead of a heal. this make scholar amazing by giving them amazing oh-crap button.

    level 64 Broil II (no change)

    Chain Stratagem - Increases Rate at watch the target takes critical heals or critical damage this can be placed on the target or boss. by 10-15% Durations is 18 seconds. meaning you can put this on a player even thou dont know why either way. allow you crit more

    Aetherpacts -cost per second is reduced from 10 to 5


    Everything else pretty much same but seraph has new animation both fairies become one.


    Ive been 80 on scholar for a bit now. so only pointing out what they should what i like see them do.
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    Last edited by VictoriaLuv; 10-19-2021 at 12:21 AM.

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    I still genuinely want to know what specific resources you based your last set of mentioned healer changes off of since they were presented as "100% true" rather than just speculation; that was shown like it was a leak, including with follow-up replies made toward some skeptic responders, and yet that ended up not being the case.

    Either way, from the newer list here, I particularly doubt that "Natures Guirdians [sic]" will become a thing, and I would rather that fairies with unique abilities or stat boosts be selected between rather than both used at the same time; that would add more flexibility to potential player strategies. I also subjectively disagree with "Ruin" being moved to a much higher level than it's already at now; it should remain the initial attack spell, especially if Scholar is still going to ultimately continue from Arcanist.

    It also looks like you're missing 30 levels? Those could end up affecting earlier spells via newer traits.
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    Player VictoriaLuv's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowMink View Post
    I still genuinely want to know what specific resources you based your last set of mentioned healer changes off of since they were presented as "100% true" rather than just speculation; that was shown like it was a leak, including with follow-up replies made toward some skeptic responders, and yet that ended up not being the case.

    Either way, from the newer list here, I particularly doubt that "Natures Guirdians [sic]" will become a thing, and I would rather that fairies with unique abilities or stat boosts be selected between rather than both used at the same time; that would add more flexibility to potential player strategies. I also subjectively disagree with "Ruin" being moved to a much higher level than it's already at now; it should remain the initial attack spell, especially if Scholar is still going to ultimately continue from Arcanist.

    It also looks like you're missing 30 levels? Those could end up affecting earlier spells via newer traits.
    allowing to summon both at same time would fix probably fix pet issue. one does one other does different abilities without pet jank. also make it unique. please note these aren't real these are just suggestions. I merged ruin with bane. watch is actually ruin 2 made logic due to what the class is a scholar, watch can be look at as professional student aims to be master of an art
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    allowing to summon both at same time would fix probably fix pet issue. one does one other does different abilities without pet jank. also make it unique. please note these aren't real these are just suggestions. I merged ruin with bane. watch is actually ruin 2 made logic due to what the class is a scholar, watch can be look at as professional student aims to be master of an art
    "due to what the class is a scholar, watch can be look at as professional student"

    ...Can you rephrase your post please?

    Also, regarding my comment about facts versus preferences, I was talking about your earlier thread that you presented as "100% true" in your words, and you were also repeatedly rude toward multiple people in replies who expressed some skepticism while politely asking for credible sources. I'm aware that this particular thread is being presented as "suggestions" instead, but my reply didn't refute that.
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    Player VictoriaLuv's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowMink View Post
    "due to what the class is a scholar, watch can be look at as professional student"

    ...Can you rephrase your post please?

    Also, regarding my comment about facts versus preferences, I was talking about your earlier thread that you presented as "100% true" in your words, and you were also repeatedly rude toward multiple people in replies who expressed some skepticism while politely asking for credible sources. I'm aware that this particular thread is being presented as "suggestions" instead, but my reply didn't refute that.
    what is defintion of a scholar ->

    scholar
    /ˈskɒlə/
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    noun
    a specialist in a particular branch of study, especially the humanities. <-

    a person who is highly educated or has an aptitude for study. <-

    a university student holding a scholarship. <-

    scholar - this means specialist in what they study - a student

    how does ruin? sound like a scholar ability
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    Last edited by VictoriaLuv; 10-20-2021 at 02:04 PM.

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    I know not everyone is happy with how Endwalker will change SCHs to some degree, but these sort of changes you want are far worse. You want to change Ruin's name because "Ruin doesn't sound like a Scholar ability at all," yet it's because SCH is obtained from ACN, who has Ruin as their main spell. You want your main spell to constantly supply MP, which only solidifies the simple DPS mentality that people hate on Healers in general. You want BOTH pets out at once, where the pet AI can't really handle a single one at times. And that's just the first couple of spells and abilities.

    You still are only focused on "flashy and engaging" over anything else at all. At this point, I think you're just a Balmung Bunny ERPing as a "top-tier game designer" or something.
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    What I am seeing is mostly healing changes. I think looking at EW's SCH kit the only healing change I'd probably make is to Dissipation, I don't think Dissipation complements SCH's tool kit well and I don't think it has even done so. It looks like shields might be beefier, though I have thought nerfing some of their pure heals would be necessary but given some of YoshiP's comments and the stat squish, I'm going to see what the incoming damage is like because I make a judgment call on that.

    As for Ruin? It's a non-elemental magic spell inherited from FFXII. Scholars are mages, so it's fine for Scholars to use a magic spell from the FF universe because many skills and spells take their names from existing FF titles. And it inherits it from ACN, and ACN is thematically closer to SCH than SMN (especially as both are strategists). SCH has plenty of skill names that suit its theme and identity, but the bit that I feel betrays its identity is its identity as a military tactician (which is why it's AF1 has military medals on it), the job doesn't feel that tactical anymore to play, which is mostly down to a healing uptime/downtime balance issue and some of the skills it has been stripped of.
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    I'm thankful to any moderators who end up looking through these many threads; this forum needs them.
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