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  1. #271
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    Scryar's Avatar
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    Ares Cassis
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    no thanks. keep the genderlock
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  2. 10-14-2021 05:57 PM
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    You know what, forget it. It's same as talking to a wall at this point.

  3. #272
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    I wholeheartedly agree. Players should be able to be who they want to, and dress how they want to.
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  4. #273
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Meoni got to interview Yoshi P and had someone else there too ( no clue who ) who asked about this.
    And Yoshi P basically stated the obvious, the devs aren't against it and would like to do it but they have limited resources and things need to be redone to fit the models and it's basically not worth it to please a minority even if they'd want to.

    There's some cases people could argue that it'd be a lot easier or could already be done but I dunno I am not going to pretend to know the exact details as to what'd go into it.
    It's easy to speculate but might not be so easy in practice.

    But we seriously don't need a billion new threads about this every week.
    The devs are aware...
    It's just not a priority and I don't think that it should be.
    Saying that doesn't mean that I wouldn't want it to all be unlocked, but you kinda need to look at it from the pov of the whole and trying to please as many people as possible with limited resources.
    Everything you do means that you're not doing something else as a dev.

    I know this might upset some people, but at the same time in most cases you already have very similar gear to the male equivelant on female characters ( especially leg pieces, 99.9% of leg pieces are pants in different colors.... ) and the amount of people playing male characters that would unironically wear a dress or a skirt are a VERY small group.
    Considering how extremely rare skirts and shorts are I don't sympathize much with people who get upset when female characters get it because again... They're extremely rare do you really need every single leg piece in the entire game to be pants?
    But I do sympathize a bit more with the latter because male characters really do have more limited fashion.

    Ultimately they're trying to appeal to different fantasies and preferences, masculine and feminine.
    And they're going to align with the typical sex.
    The reason why we have gendered gear in the game is precisely because the devs do want to offer options, but nothing is perfect.

    I do think that when we're talking about mogstation gear tho it's a bit different because we're paying extra for it, I'd also say the same about event gear.


    Edit: Like again when I am reading the earlier posts again.

    '' I wish female characters could wear pants ''.


    ............... What game are you playing?
    Some of y'all act as if just because one leg piece every now and again isn't pants it somehow means that you have no options.
    Just what.

    I get that sometimes you might prefer the other version, but not every single gear piece in the whole game needs to fit your tastes either.
    And you do have other options you can replace it with and barely notice a difference if at all.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 10-16-2021 at 10:18 AM.

  5. #274
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Meoni got to interview Yoshi P and had someone else there too ( no clue who ) who asked about this.
    And Yoshi P basically stated the obvious, the devs aren't against it and would like to do it but they have limited resources and things need to be redone to fit the models and it's basically not worth it to please a minority even if they'd want to.
    Yet they turn around and proceed to make two completely different looking outfits tied to the same armor... It does make their response seem a bit contradictory.
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  6. #275
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Yet they turn around and proceed to make two completely different looking outfits tied to the same armor... It does make their response seem a bit contradictory.
    Would you prefer less variation and everyone gets the one same look then?
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  7. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Would you prefer less variation and everyone gets the one same look then?
    I would prefer to wear pants, when the game hands me a pair of pants.
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  8. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    I would prefer to wear pants, when the game hands me a pair of pants.
    That is not what I asked. In response to the original post I quoted: They are using their resources to make more variations of gear, rather than unisex pieces. This isn't a perfect world where everyone can get everything they want. They can't just snap their fingers and boom, the gender locks are removed! The result of fitting gear to both genders requires resources, and time. People can pat themselves on the back all they want, about how great it is for a male character to wear a dress, but we need to be real here.

    I suppose if they were to make more unisex pieces, female characters would have more pants. Unless we want to make the healer robe or skirts complaint a wider issue, but then what about the players who actually want to wear dresses or skirts?
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 10-16-2021 at 05:36 PM.
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  9. #278
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    I approve of removing genderlock so I can rock that sexy Aymeric trenchcoat as Thighlander.
    *slams "Like" button faster than Barry Allen or Wally West could at their best*

    While on the topic, I would also like the option to use the Valentione's vest the men got a couple of years ago, as opposed to the frilly dress the event offered women. Nothing against frilly dresses, it's just not my aesthetic.

    But, I mean... *gestures emphatically towards forum signature* ...my views on this are not exactly a mystery to anyone who's interacted with me here. At all. Ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    I would prefer to wear pants, when the game hands me a pair of pants.
    *hits "Like" with dizzying speed once again*

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I suppose if they were to make more unisex pieces, female characters would have more pants. Unless we want to make the healer robe or skirts complaint a wider issue, but then what about the players who actually want to wear dresses or skirts?
    All joking aside, my personal preference would probably be "let any given set of gear be worn by both men and women, then give us some options". I don't need every set of healer gear to be masculine, just like I doubt others would need every bit of, say, tank gear to be feminine.

    I would just like some of them to do so.

    Because if the gear's icon shows a badass coat and I put it on to find it's magically become a poofy dress (see: Copied Factory gear) or the icon is a pair of pants and I put it on only to find out it's actually underwear or a miniskirt (as with a downright alarming amount of healer gear), I am likely going to feel mildly misled and a little bit cross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  10. #279
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    I think it’s gonna be awhile before we get more attention done to genderlocks. Again, they can barely even put their time and resources towards an increase in masculine gear. I feel there’s more people that would benefit from that than the minority that wants genderlocks taken off. Like others have said in a perfect world it would be nice to have this stuff so everyone’s happy, but it’s just not viable.
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  11. #280
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    hey remember when we got the ishgard school set, everyone could equip what they want and society didnt actually degrade into a hoarde of deviants? funny how that worked out.
    (infact se probably made more cash since i know a couple of ppl got both sets just to mix them)
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