Do people see this game as an MMO?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You must be fun at parties. I do both, but then again I go out of my way to help others if needed. Why play an MMO if you are that anti social?

I don't go to parties, but I'm pretty sure even at large parties people mostly group up with their friends.

Kinda like people do in mmos.


I have friends 8 talk to while playing, and outside of game. I talk to randoms if there is reason, but if not? Why should I. I don't engage with randoms in person, either, for many of the same reasons I don't in game.

[BigHoffie]

You must be fun at parties. I do both, but then again I go out of my way to help others if needed. Why play an MMO if you are that anti social?

Since we're generalizing people, you seem like the kinda person who goes up to girls and gives them "compliments" and then gets butthurt when they think you're being a creep. Why play an MMO? Because I want to, who are you to imply I or anyone else is a bad person for not wanting to talk to you.

[Ronduwil]

I ask as mostly I find people in this game are not willing to talk to others.
Be it in fc or in the world or in dungeons. Is it a thing in ff14 or a over all problem 8n modern mmo.

There is no requirement that you talk to others in a Massively Multiplayer Online game. Note the absence of communication in the acronym. As long as it's large scale, online, and played by multiple people at one time, it's an MMO. Your statement is like saying that a community center is not a community center because the random strangers you encounter there aren't proactively welcoming you into their community. MMOs enable socialization. It's not their job to force it. I find that most people in this game are, in fact, more than willing to talk to others. If players aren't communicating with you specifically, you should exercise a little introspection to determine why that is.

Consider that other players have interests and agendas that are not necessarily aligned with your own. Personally, I'm reluctant to interact with players who aren't happily married or heavily invested in a relationship because I've been burned in the past. One player that I considered a good friend fired off a very personal e-mail to my wife, creeping her out and prompting her to quit Guild Wars. I've also known a handful of women who flirted with me to the point of discomfort despite my telling them that I was happily married and uninterested in those kinds of in-game interactions. So while I used to treat my fellow players as friends, I now treat them more like co-workers in a casual setting.

My advice to you is to stay kind of quiet for the first few days in a new FC, testing out the waters and discovering what kinds of interests your fellow FC members have. If those interests align with yours, then wade into conversations gradually with your own insights. If they don't, then find a different FC. Trying to impose your own personal preferences on others never ends well.

[Ronduwil]

Thats more to the point of being focussed on the instance, focussing on what you are doing, watching AOE's, on movement, on mechanics. Im with other people in a run and I have to have my head in the game, not chatting about what i had for lunch.

You CANT stop and type chat in the middle of Deltascape.

This is a good point. When players ask why others don't like the idea of skewing more gameplay towards hard content, this is exactly why. When you combine go go go style gameplay with complex one-shot mechanics, you wind up with an entire game full of players with this point of view. I'm the same way right now. I'm too busy dodging stuff, managing my 12-button rotation, and/or trying to learn the bosses' tells to pay attention to your eloquent recap of the day's events. It definitely makes for a less social game.

[Payadopa]

I know this is an echo chamber and if you don't yell 'the sky is falling' about pretty much everything when it gets implemented you're doing it wrong here but honestly, yes, I think MMOs should cater to groups (unpopular opinion alert, I know lol). Bonus points if it's about healers.

At the end of the day it's nice to have options so to each their own, but I'll never understand how you can play an MMO without the social interaction. For me that's like the best part. But then again, I'm a social person.

And, yes, I quite often stop what I'm doing and just help randoms. Sure, I don't get as much done but the best stories happen in those moments. I still remember certain encounters in XI and that was over... um... 15 (?) years ago.

If anything, party play should be encouraged.

[Payadopa]

Since we're generalizing people, you seem like the kinda person who goes up to girls and gives them "compliments" and then gets butthurt when they think you're being a creep. Why play an MMO? Because I want to, who are you to imply I or anyone else is a bad person for not wanting to talk to you.

Yeah, sure. But MMOs come with expectations. And I throw out another unpopular opinion. Solo only players are slowly eroding the entire foundation. Sure, that's certainly not the only reason why most content is brain-dead in terms of difficulty but it's certainly a part of it. The very underutilised overworld comes to mind. Can't have any real difficult encounters because then people would have to talk to one another. The horror. lol Eh, your sub. I still think you're playing an MMO wrong, though.

[Shougun]

At the end of the day it's nice to have options so to each their own, but I'll never understand how you can play an MMO without the social interaction.

That's exactly right, generally speaking, and also to the latter bit that's perfectly okay.

Honestly I think sport videogames are just... O_o.... o_O.... ?? Y Tho?? Particularly football (both 'American' and 'European' variants), for whatever reason I feel snowboarding games are fun sometimes (though I don't go out of my way to play them). Would rather play the sport, or do something incredible (like fighting dragons). Playing sport video games just sounds like a punishment to me. . . Would you like to play FIFA XYZ? Me: "I'd rather work".

Yet there is no reason I'd want them removed (though from a third person perspective I did wish they were less predatory on the whole loot box stuff, that part just seems rough).

Similarly for things like game difficulty. For a long period, of my much younger life, I looked at easy and normal like "scrub mode" for those who just couldn't figure out how their fingers worked. Via both maturity, why does it matter what others do? Seems silly and a bit childish if everyone is having fun in and of itself (to a certain extent, there are exceptions of course- multiplayer games with hacking would be a zero tolerance zone), and my own evolution of time available, now I look at easy mode as sometimes "thank god you added that, I can finish this game within my schedule and ultimately get to enjoy more games rather than like 1 game over a period of 4 months".

[LioJen]

The Gameplay is just to fast to chat. Back in FFXI I always talked during leveling partys and stuff but in XIV there is just no time to talk because you are constantly busy pressing buttons.

This. FFXI and older MMOs were slower paced, which allowed people to type in the chat while also playing the game. You had several moments between pressing any buttons where you were just autoattacking, or even just running to the next destination with your group. There is no more downtime in games like XIV, if you are playing the game you are pressing buttons 100% of the time or you are not doing it right. The only people I see chatting during an instance are the ones who are not actually contributing.

Could be addressed by adding an actual voice chat function in the game itself that connects you to your party in an instance (like I believe GTAV has), but this would need the majority of the playerbase to have and be using a headset and I'm sure many would want the option to turn it off and ignore others. "Toxicity" and all.

[Takamorisan]

I see this as an mmo, you play with different people and allow social interaction if you allow yourself to.

As relationships in general its pure RNG, you might end up in a really open arms group, you might end up in a bad interaction and so on. Trial and error, don't lose faith or you will end up alone and grumpy like me.

[Krotoan]

.. just because I'm in a "public" area, doesn't mean I wanna talk to people. If I could have as diverse and supported an experience in a client hosted coop game (I do play with my friends), then I would.

Bummer if you think this "ruins" MMOs.. but they must be doing something right if so many people want to play the game.