Pulling wall to wall isn't fast enough?

[Sqwall]

I have been a main tank for about 9 years, and I have dealt with the Wall to Wall pulling since Heavensward. I have slowly come to HATE wall to wall pulling as all it does is make dungeons trivial. Dungeons have just become quick tomestone/seal farming runs. I very much so hope the SE looks at the older content and decides to make "unreal dungeons" happen.

I always wait for sprouts to finish the cutscenes. It's just the decent thing to do. And I if I see a sprout watching a cutscene and someone else pulls....I just stand still. I don't try and help...I just let them die. Then when they get all butt hurt and are like "Tank you need to hurry up!" I kindly tell them "No I don't....you need to wait for the first timer to finish the cutscene". It's 50/50 they leave, and I really don't care. Enjoy the penalty. Those are the moments I love being a tank....you're really in control and it's even more fun when people are in a hurrry.

As for the pulling early and DPS deciding to pull? That's a mixed bag. If I'm with friends I don't really care when I'm the MT. But if I'm with a bunch on randos or 3 sprouts? You can bet your ass I'm not going to let that shit slide.

It personally drives me nuts when DPS pull or Healers rescue me to go faster. It's not saving any time, and it's annoying.

There are so many times where a DPS is acting stupid or thinks that they can just start pulling whenever they want. I just stop and watch them panic, and the satisfaction of watching them die just puts a smirk on my face. "What an idiot!" I say to myself. Then I tell the healer don't rez them...let them run back and ponder why DPS shouldn't pull adds without a tank.

Even when I DPS I ALWAYS wait for the tank. Oh and this rescue thing that healers do....why? Just why? Are you really in that much of a hurry? Rescue just get's my blood boiling when going from pull to pull.

I have gotten to the point of if I'm in a really BAD dungeon run, a DPS is pulling mobs or gathering running ahead to gather mobs and bring them back. Or I love the healers that just don't....heal. They just spam Holy, or Gravity and can't even toss out a shield or regen...nothing, and even though they told me to pull big, but can't bring themselves to actually heal. "Oh i'll just bene you!...chill out". It literally takes NO effort to toss a regen or aspected benefic. In a group like this we'll get to the last boss...and I'll just leave. I'll take the penalty, and they can sit there and wait for a tank. I have become that petty now with this whole "gogogo" thing. Well they can "gogogo" to hell, and just sit there. I can spend my penalty mining, crafting, play my switch, take the dogs outside, and all the while I will feel great doing it knowing....those morons are probably still waiting on a tank. Feels amazing.

[aveyond-dreams]

There are so many times where a DPS is acting stupid or thinks that they can just start pulling whenever they want. I just stop and watch them panic, and the satisfaction of watching them die just puts a smirk on my face. "What an idiot!" I say to myself. Then I tell the healer don't rez them...let them run back and ponder why DPS shouldn't pull adds without a tank.

This behavior is considered griefing and if you told me not to raise a dps because of some ego trip I would likely initiate a vote kick or leave myself depending on the dungeon.

Oh and this rescue thing that healers do....why? Just why? Are you really in that much of a hurry? Rescue just get's my blood boiling when going from pull to pull.

Or I love the healers that just don't....heal. They just spam Holy, or Gravity and can't even toss out a shield or regen...nothing, and even though they told me to pull big, but can't bring themselves to actually heal. "Oh i'll just bene you!...chill out". It literally takes NO effort to toss a regen or aspected benefic. Feels amazing.

I will absolutely rescue a tank that isn't pulling enough and slowing the party down. There is no reason for me to heal a tank that is doing single pulls because they simply do not take enough damage to warrant healing. For me to need to heal the tank needs to have pulled at least 2 packs. There is also no reason for me to heal when I could be applying card buffs or dealing damage myself, so I will save my heals for when they feel necessary instead of overhealing.

In a group like this we'll get to the last boss...and I'll just leave. I'll take the penalty, and they can sit there and wait for a tank. I have become that petty now with this whole "gogogo" thing. Well they can "gogogo" to hell, and just sit there. I can spend my penalty mining, crafting, play my switch, take the dogs outside, and all the while I will feel great doing it knowing....those morons are probably still waiting on a tank. Feels amazing.

I hate to break it to you but I can definitely keep people healed during a boss fight even if there's no tank. Any time you do that the group probably just went ahead and cleared it themselves.

[LittleImp]

I have been a main tank for about 9 years,

How do you cope with spending 9 years doing something, only to remain incompetent and intensely insecure about it?

[LaughingBanana]

How do you cope with spending 9 years doing something, only to remain incompetent and intensely insecure about it?

Some of you can be very nasty, huh?

Like disagree with him, okay, but is it really necessary to throw a nasty insult like this? Sheesh.

[Xirean]

Some of you can be very nasty, huh?

Like disagree with him, okay, but is it really necessary to throw a nasty insult like this? Sheesh.

You realize the post that was a reply to suggested letting people die and having a tank power trip, right?

[LaughingBanana]

You realize the post that was a reply to suggested letting people die and having a tank power trip, right?

I read it. What he's complaining about, regarding DPS who zoomed forward past tanks to grab aggro or about Healers that say go go go but can't handle it and can't be bothered to use all their tools--it is by no means something that all in agreement about what to do about. Many people agreed that DPS that pulls aggro ahead of tanks are annoying, after all.

Regardless, telling anyone who plays this game for a long time something like that is totally uncalled for; unnecessarily nasty.

[Xirean]

I read it. What he's complaining about, regarding DPS who zoomed forward past tanks to grab aggro or about Healers that say go go go but can't handle it and can't be bothered to use all their tools--it is by no means something that all in agreement about what to do about. Many people agreed that DPS that pulls aggro ahead of tanks are annoying, after all.

Regardless, telling anyone who plays this game for a long time something like that is totally uncalled for; unnecessarily nasty.

Highly subjective honestly. I don't care if DPS do that. I know a lot of people that feel the same way. Because if I'm tanking, I'm just going to agro it eventually anyway. And healers not knowing how to use their kit by my own perspective just means that I can either teach them something or they can teach me something. The amount of "mistakes" I've seen people make in this game only to find out that they were actually doing something better is ridiculous. If someone has been playing for 9 years gets annoyed by a dps being in front of them or a healer using rescue to move them to the next pack then imo they should re-evaluate. I welcome when I get players who are as onboard with what I generally want to do.

[Ftail]

Regardless, telling anyone who plays this game for a long time something like that is totally uncalled for; unnecessarily nasty.

I want to say you must be new here, but with your post count I can see that's not true. What the tank is doing is griefing and I'm fairly certain he can be reported for purposely letting people die.

However, I agree with you it's uncalled for and unnecessarily nasty. That's just how online forums tend to be I'm afraid. You might be looking for a mature discussion with people respecting others opinions. However, you will find very little of that in any online forum. People are condescending, insulting, and constantly looking for "gotcha" moments to prove their opinion is right. This forum is more heavily moderated than others, so people skim a very thin line with insulting others here.

It's my opinion people should wait for the sprout to watch the cutscene, some other people might think it's rude to make someone wait. No one here is right or wrong, we all just have different viewpoints, many people can't accept that however and think their opinion is the spoken gospel.

[LittleImp]

Some of you can be very nasty, huh?

Like disagree with him, okay, but is it really necessary to throw a nasty insult like this? Sheesh.

It's 50/50 they leave, and I really don't care. Enjoy the penalty. Those are the moments I love being a tank....you're really in control and it's even more fun when people are in a hurrry.

the satisfaction of watching them die just puts a smirk on my face. "What an idiot!" I say to myself.

I have become that petty now with this whole "gogogo" thing. Well they can "gogogo" to hell, and just sit there.

I will feel great doing it knowing....those morons are probably still waiting on a tank. Feels amazing.

Feel free to continue to defend someone who is literally stating on an open forum that they are proud of griefing other players and do it for unhealthy emotional validation I guess.

My question, while meant to be scathing, was still an honest one. It takes a very twisted person to spend that long doing something and then continue to behave this way.

[Kolaina]

I always wait for sprouts to finish the cutscenes. It's just the decent thing to do. And I if I see a sprout watching a cutscene and someone else pulls....I just stand still. I don't try and help...I just let them die. Then when they get all butt hurt and are like "Tank you need to hurry up!" I kindly tell them "No I don't....you need to wait for the first timer to finish the cutscene". It's 50/50 they leave, and I really don't care. Enjoy the penalty. Those are the moments I love being a tank....you're really in control and it's even more fun when people are in a hurrry.

When i play i usually have the power of vote. Any one pulls this kind of griefieng in a run I’m in, they get the kick. It’s simple. I hope more learn to do the same