Animosity with World of warcraft players who still like the game?

[AriesDaBeeh]

That's a really debatable statement. WoW isn't original, it just happened to be the most popular. Yes they got quite a few ideas from it, but then WoW took a lot of ideas from other games too. And the FF franchise has been around much, much longer than blizzard itself.

Second what Izscha was saying, I think I remember hearing that yoshi played wow a bunch back in the day and took the ideas hes experience from his time there with him to this project.

[Izscha]

Yeah... thats what I said.

"Yeah there is no FF XIV without WoW" "It's debatable" "No they said countless time how they looked at wow making their game" "Yeah thats what i said"

Dunno, and 4 years isn't "much much longer" at all.

[AlyaNimfa]

Not sure what you are even trying to say now. You are cherry picking at this stage, so I'm chalking it up to a troll.

Have a great night!

[Izscha]

I am the one cherry picking ? Lmao

See yah indeed.

[DBriggs304]

There is no WoW without EQ in which they copied it entirely...as is the case with most of thier games.

FF was established before Warcraft. The years between or how long doesn't matter.

[Izscha]

There is no WoW without EQ in which they copied it entirely...as is the case with most of thier games.

FF was established before Warcraft. The years between or how long doesn't matter.

Didn't know that FF 1 was an mmo, same goes for FF 2 or 3.
It amaze me how it's so hard for you to accept that WoW influenced this game from the start when even the devs talked openly about it.

[DBriggs304]

Didn't know that FF 1 was an mmo, same goes for FF 2 or 3.
It amaze me how it's so hard for you to accept that WoW influenced this game from the start when even the devs talked openly about it.

Didn't know that the original Warcraft was an MMO in 94. Could have sworn it was a RTS...then became and MMO years later.

Kinda like Final Fantasy...which the original was in 87.

[Izscha]

Didn't know that the original Warcraft was an MMO in 94. Could have sworn it was a RTS...then became and MMO years later.

Kinda like Final Fantasy...which the original was in 87.

We're talking about FF XIV and WoW here, which were release in 2004 and ... 2010-2013.
What universe comes first is totally irrelevant to begin with, it's not even an argument to begin with.
I dont even know why you guys try to act like "yeah FF its 87 so FF XIV doesn't have a WoW heritage" like ... the heck ?

[DBriggs304]

We're talking about FF XIV and WoW here, which were release in 2004 and ... 2010-2013.
What universe comes first is totally irrelevant to begin with, it's not even an argument to begin with.
I dont even know why you guys try to act like "yeah FF its 87 so FF XIV doesn't have a WoW heritage" like ... the heck ?

No, you're talking about that now since the dates back up what the previous poster said that you jumped on for some reason.

If we are now moving goalposts, then you are still incorrect. Final Fantasy 11...an MMO was released in 2002.

[Izscha]

No, you're talking about that now since the dates back up what the previous poster said that you jumped on for some reason.

If we are now moving goalposts, then you are still incorrect. Final Fantasy 11...an MMO was released in 2002.

And FFXI had almost nothing to do with FF XIV, if you ever played this one you would know that.
You guys are the one talking about the universe, you started it to have like dunno an argument ?
The devs talked countless time about how WoW influenced them for this game, that's it that's not debatable the only thing that is debatable here is why it hurts you so much that WoW influenced this game to come up with stupid things like that.
Not that FF XI was a huge hit either to begin with and they did know that.