Do people see this game as an MMO?

[Theodric]

Feel free to hit me up in-game sometime, OP, if you'd like someone to talk to.

[MonsutaMan]

XIV is not as deep as many other mmo; like XI, CoX, or even WoW.

I don't really talk, because A) Ya'll be on some Bull..........lol..... B) There isn't really much to talk about.

Many mmo players fondest memories are probably from games like WoW, EQ, XI, Eve or something.......Personally, I don't have any FXIV memories which stand out. The world is not particularly dangerous; you really have no need for anyone else if you buy lvl boost, and the game-play is pretty repetitive.....lacking depth compared to a XI were the mages would self skill-chain or some crazy $hit.

Because games like XI are deep, there was more opportunities to talk......Mostly to help others who had questions, come up with new builds, try to be that brave melee mage..... or reminiscence when visiting an old areas.

In XIV, there is really no reason to talk...Unless you do extreme $hit or something I guess.....

[Melorie]

XIV is not as deep as many other mmo; like XI, CoX, or even WoW.

I don't really talk, because A) Ya'll be on some Bull..........lol..... B) There isn't really much to talk about.

Many mmo players fondest memories are probably from games like WoW, EQ, XI, Eve or something.......Personally, I don't have any FXIV memories which stand out. The world is not particularly dangerous; you really have no need for anyone else if you buy lvl boost, and the game-play is pretty repetitive.....lacking depth compared to a XI were the mages would self skill-chain or some crazy $hit.

Because games like XI are deep, there was more opportunities to talk......Mostly to help others who had questions, come up with new builds, try to be that brave melee mage..... or reminiscence when visiting an old areas.

In XIV, there is really no reason to talk...Unless you do extreme $hit or something I guess.....

I haven't played XI but... Yeah. I mean, even though sometimes games like RO were a pain to grind... the grinding aspect really turned things memorable. Since we were grinding for hours, people started talking, making small commentaries... the fact that a lot of items were complicated to get or that you had builds involved lead to a very deep theory-crafting community, you needed friends to do a lot of things (you could do things solo if you had the gear/money for it though). I still have the music from some maps into my head, or I remember particular mobs because of their difficulty to access, or something like that. I know the exact route to get into some maps, even after years have passed and I was never a hardcore player in RO. I enjoy XIV a lot and understand that it's not trying to be a hard/grindy game, and that this type of game isn't for everyone (particularly I'm a more enjoy the journey than rush to the endgame person, so I don't mind grindy things - I have no rush).

Of course these games have a lot of problems, I don't mean to approach this in a rose-tinted glasses kind-of-way. But yes, although I do have precious friends in FFXIV, a lot of my memories with them aren't because of something the game made. If anything, what was really memorable was trying to glitch the deck on our house in a certain way LOL and it became memorable BECAUSE it was a pain to do.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

XIV is not as deep as many other mmo; like XI, CoX, or even WoW.

I don't really talk, because A) Ya'll be on some Bull..........lol..... B) There isn't really much to talk about.

Many mmo players fondest memories are probably from games like WoW, EQ, XI, Eve or something.......Personally, I don't have any FXIV memories which stand out. The world is not particularly dangerous; you really have no need for anyone else if you buy lvl boost, and the game-play is pretty repetitive.....lacking depth compared to a XI were the mages would self skill-chain or some crazy $hit.

Because games like XI are deep, there was more opportunities to talk......Mostly to help others who had questions, come up with new builds, try to be that brave melee mage..... or reminiscence when visiting an old areas.

In XIV, there is really no reason to talk...Unless you do extreme $hit or something I guess.....

I mean, the internet as a whole is also much bigger than it was 20 years ago.

Now there are tons of websites and communities dedicated to those things. Guides are plastered everywhere, and communities are much bigger outside the game than they were back then.


This is just "the old days we're better because games forced us to talk"

I have plenty of good memories in XIV. I reminisce with my friends about them all the time. The group I play with I've known since summer of 2014.

[Velnora]

More of an afk simulator, if anything.

[Kes13a]

More of an afk simulator, if anything.

if you think this is an afk simulator, you obviously havent played something like Vindictus.. you actually get rewards from events for simply being logged in... period. you get an event item every 1/2 hour for a max I think of 3 hours. being afk is far more of a thing than it is here. they run these events, almost all the time. oh, they also have a fatigue system, so after doing x number of things you basically have zero to do for xp or rewards, so being afk is what you are left with.

FFxiv has nothing on Vindi.. trust me...

[FoxyAreku]

Sounds like you haven't found a good FC/group to play with.

[Yuella]

It can be both. It can be a single player RPG with chat features or it can be an immersive worlds where players can build a community and open RP venues where people can RP and hangout.

[Theodric]

Sounds like you haven't found a good FC/group to play with.

Some people are just unlucky like that.

Finding a good group of players requires a lot of luck. You can do everything right and just...not find enough people to run stuff with in a way that works. Which makes sense, since a lot of groups are already 'full' and not really looking for fresh blood. Or they have schedules that just don't align with the player reaching out.

Then, of course, there's going to be people who did find a good group but for whatever reason it fell apart. Sometimes due to drama. Sometimes due to inactivity. Some players have had that happen multiple times and simply don't want to risk going through the exact same song and dance once more.

[SturmChurro]

Some people are just unlucky like that.

Finding a good group of players requires a lot of luck. You can do everything right and just...not find enough people to run stuff with in a way that works. Which makes sense, since a lot of groups are already 'full' and not really looking for fresh blood. Or they have schedules that just don't align with the player reaching out.

Then, of course, there's going to be people who did find a good group but for whatever reason it fell apart. Sometimes due to drama. Sometimes due to inactivity. Some players have had that happen multiple times and simply don't want to risk going through the exact same song and dance once more.

Yeah, I have had multiple clans/groups that fall apart, due to a variety of reasons. Not to mention, for me, it's exhausting anymore to feel the need to have to interact or do things with a clan/guild. Maybe it's even due to past guilds/clans falling apart; I'd rather not have to deal with it again. It's like I've said before, I've gotten quite flaky in the past few years, and I just don't want to feel obligated to do things with a clan or guild, when I don't want to do them. I'd have to find a really good group of players that feels similarly to me, and I don't really want to put myself out there and find one in the first place. I prefer a more organic approach when it comes to making friends. In this game, I will join a linkshell or something for specific content types (extreme farms, eureka/bozja, etc.), but that's about as far as I go.