"gogogo" might make me quit this game.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

Gogogo mentality is a BIG problem of this game. most of the time it looks as if people HATE the dungeons they are "FORCED" to do. but there other metods to get tomes just may not be a s fast. so why people that don't wan to do the dungeons fucking over the one that are.
there need to be 2 separated roulettes. veteran one where its a bannebae offence to not pull wall to wall. and a new players one where its a bannebae offence to force a wall to wall pull. the veteran one will give half the tomes and the new player give the normal one. its so new players have a way to do dungeons.
this need to fix the problem.

[Larirawiel]

Gogogo mentality is a BIG problem of this game. most of the time it looks as if people HATE the dungeons they are "FORCED" to do.

That's the point that i mentioned on page one or two. If the players have the choice to do things in an efficient way or a way that makes fun so the will almost always choose the efficient one. And they will hate it. I can tell many examples like worldbuffs/fury-prot-meta in WoW classic, Garnison in WoW WoD etc. The FF14 players are no exception here.

Cheers

[aveyond-dreams]

Who says you can't have fun while still being efficient? Whenever I'm healing or tanking, single pulls bore me out of my mind. Pulling multiple packs at a time speeds things up and makes things more engaging.

[Plastics]

Leveling alt jobs also involves dungeon grind.

I hope everyone in favor of slow dungeons has to level every job in 30+ minute dungeons. You're such a big fan of them, so feel free to spend twice as long as everyone else doing it.

[Lauren]

and maybe some of you are fine with that. Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but it is my opinion and my feedback even though there is an infinitesimally small chance it will affect anything or anyone, besides getting my flamed.

"Gogogo" really sucks, especially for new players. Im to the point now of getting dungeons that I don't recognize or remember, that I have evidently already done. I struggle to keep up, I use sprint on cooldown just to keep up, healers pulling, DPS pulling, never time to watch cut scenes or even look at loot. I hate it. I hate the go go go mentality of this and other MMO's. It is destroying my love for a beautiful game that I have otherwise fallen in love with.

Im sorry some of you have been doing these dungeons for years and could do them with your eyes closed and get physically ill at the sight of them. But there is an unprecedented number of new players to the game right now and you should be a little more patient. It is not fun, very frustrating and again, I know I may be in the minority, but I can't be the only one.

Im not sure what the solution is or who to blame but I wanted to give my feedback.

Hi Xaruko,

I'd highly recommend using TRUSTS/Squadrons to go through the 4-man dungeon content. You clearly have a different playstyle to the majority of people who play the game and find it stressful to play in an environment where people want to enjoy dungeons by killing larger packs of mobs. I've had a good chunk of friends come play this game and they are pulling mobs left right and center and sprinting through dungeons just fine - being a new player doesn't negate a wish to want to murder big packs of mobs. A lot of people just enjoy dungeons this way. And, tbh, some of the fun we've had has been wiping to these huge pulls and making fun of each other about it.

FFXIV is an MMO where you repeat content consistently. I cannot speak for other MMOs and how you enjoy those but this is how FFXIV works. If it's not for you, that's fine.

However, from experience playing other MMOs, running through dungeons efficiently or quick is a common and popular way of "enjoying" that type of content and I'm not sure you're going to find many people in a party-matching system that was to run content slowly for no other reason than "going slow". I'd recommend finding like-minded individuals to slowly go through content if you find rushing through dungeons not for you.

[Nishira]

So many people choose to ‘stand up’ for the person in cut scene. Does that person even want you to? Wiping a party, or doing any action knowingly leading to the wipe of a party is bad no matter how you justify it. Idc how many smiley emotes you type, you are the toxic griefer in doing so, choosing to punish people is always on the side of negativity.

Pulling dungeons as fast as you can without discussing it, maybe resulting in wipes, but who cares, FAST is GOOD and all that matters! Death doesn’t mean a thing in this game! is bad then too right. Toxic griefing. Glad we cleared that up.

Anyway, I’ve not been in the situation where someone pulls the boss while someone else is in a cutscene. Most people are perfectly capable of waiting patiently a bit, and not rushing them. In that sense I think it’ll not be an issue, it has to be rare that someone acts as rude as that.

[ACE135]

Leveling alt jobs also involves dungeon grind.

I hope everyone in favor of slow dungeons has to level every job in 30+ minute dungeons. You're such a big fan of them, so feel free to spend twice as long as everyone else doing it.

They might be bored as half as long as the rushing people when they reach the point where there's nothing more to do.

[Aron73]

Pulling dungeons as fast as you can without discussing it, maybe resulting in wipes, but who cares, FAST is GOOD and all that matters! Death doesn’t mean a thing in this game! is bad then too right. Toxic griefing. Glad we cleared that up.

Anyway, I’ve not been in the situation where someone pulls the boss while someone else is in a cutscene. Most people are perfectly capable of waiting patiently a bit, and not rushing them. In that sense I think it’ll not be an issue, it has to be rare that someone acts as rude as that.

I can only agree with you here! I don't think anyone has ever pulled the boss for me during a cut scene, so yes, it must be rare indeed.
The only thing I have noticed is that people most of the time do not explain the boss mechanics, and usually, that's fine. I usually survive just by following another teammate closely, but sometimes I do die, but usually, healers are quick to revive when that happens, so in the end, just good fun, in my opinion.
But PLEASE don't be so quick leaving the dungeon afterward. I love giving good players endorsements! They usually go to the tank or the healer, depending on who did the best job.
So stay, let's say 20sec longer, and it just might be you who receive it next time.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

Leveling alt jobs also involves dungeon grind.

I hope everyone in favor of slow dungeons has to level every job in 30+ minute dungeons. You're such a big fan of them, so feel free to spend twice as long as everyone else doing it.

if you lvl a dps then dungeons are the last thing you want to do for the more fast way. adn for the love of god not doing wall to wall may add 1 min to the run. -_-

[Nishira]

I find that frustrating too Aron, I want to give comms! And here I am, in a cutscene that I really want to watch! Wait for meeee! I wish we could give comms when people have left already.