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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    On who would probably have the most impact, in universe, it'd be Alphi. He's not my favorite character, but if we were actually the WoL, his story is arguably the most tied ours. He was on the cart at the beginning, he was the point man for a lot of plot development (and indeed he and Tataru were THE main recurring NPCs in HW).

    I mean, as far as I can see he is the main character of this story. We're just the brute force.
    His Grand Company of Eorzea dream is a reality, and the main threat to it now is the destruction of the star. Will he go out like grandpa and leave a heavy weight on his twin sister? It could possibly breech whatever has daddy's cheeks clinched so tight. So much pathos-laden regret to fill a series of cutscenes.




    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    Assuming that being a Trust does not guarantee a character's survival...
    Well, if you play with the Trust for Shadowbringers the game understandably uses what made sense for each phase of the story, so that early dungeons still feature a name in the dialogue text that a character no longer uses.

    Even if characters retire or fade away into obscurity, wouldn't they be unavailable after that point for dungeons that come after any that?

    Imagine if a favorite Trust member dies, though, and the only way to see them again outside of the storybook of cutscenes is to run old dungeons with the Trust.
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    Last edited by tinythinker; 10-04-2021 at 09:04 PM. Reason: typos
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
    Well, if you play with the Trust for Shadowbringers the game understandably uses what made sense for each phase of the story, so that early dungeons still feature a name in the dialogue text that a character no longer uses.

    Even if characters retire or fade away into obscurity, wouldn't they be unavailable after that point for dungeons that come after any that?
    Yes. But one thing you've probably noticed is that the number of available characters never dips below 4. That's because we need a minimum of one character per slot: One Tank, One Healer, and Two DPS. This essentially means that unless we see a significant increase in the available trust NPCs, at least four of the Scions can't be permanently removed from the action.

    This gets more extreme, however, if the developers expand trusts to include Story Trials. They have talked about wanting to do so in an older interview, so it's possible that Endwalker will launch with all three of its Story Trials being Trust compatible. Unless the number of available trust NPCs expanded considerably, this would not only mean that all 7 currently available Trusts would be guaranteed to survive until the end of Endwalker, but we'd even have to have an additional character join, and they would also have to be permanently available for the duration of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    Yes. But one thing you've probably noticed is that the number of available characters never dips below 4. That's because we need a minimum of one character per slot: One Tank, One Healer, and Two DPS. This essentially means that unless we see a significant increase in the available trust NPCs, at least four of the Scions can't be permanently removed from the action.

    This gets more extreme, however, if the developers expand trusts to include Story Trials. They have talked about wanting to do so in an older interview, so it's possible that Endwalker will launch with all three of its Story Trials being Trust compatible. Unless the number of available trust NPCs expanded considerably, this would not only mean that all 7 currently available Trusts would be guaranteed to survive until the end of Endwalker, but we'd even have to have an additional character join, and they would also have to be permanently available for the duration of the story.
    I think if Trusts were going to be used in trials, wouldn't they have announced it already?
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