Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Frizze]

This is going to be a little different, and I'm going to call out myself.

No criticism for how you handled anything in there, as i cant say if i would have done things differently. Thats a slow dungeon, but still a LONG time to spend there. If you start on edge because you dont like the instance, then it takes extra forever because of someone elses playstyle, then at the end they criticize you for the one questionable thing you did... yeah, i would have been a raging ball of fury at that point and i can not say i would have stayed quiet.

But one point i did want to make. You were wrong about limits. Its only in alliance raids that engaging the next boss causes the bar to reset. Of course, they were being dumb too. You dont use a ranged/caster limit to pull a dungeon boss(though this IS a legit strategy for an alliance boss since the limit-pull means the old bar is used up before the fight-start resets it). If you have a ranged/caster, then they should use their limit to burn down one of the trash pulls on the way TO the dungeon boss. If no ranged/caster, then a melee should typically limit the 2nd boss, as fighting the final boss will be enough to give you one bar to use on the final boss and the 2 bar limit is never needed. Of course all of that limit-theory assumes a normal-ish dungeon, and Maws does just kinda suck.

[Rinhi]

an hour in toto-rak sounds like absolute hell, just what the frick was making it take so long?

[tinythinker]

Bardam's Mettle... oh Bardam's Mettle. Two runs on Dancer. First one was buttery smooth and double pulls galore. The second run however?

PLD in all 260 gear just yeets off to the moon and pulls to the wall with the stone enemies, doesnt get aggro on anything and we all die. Okay he made a (big) mistake, surely he'd learn from it? Nope. We respawn and he yeets off again doing the exact same thing and we all wipe a second time. Surely you'd think it'd end there. Third time he yeets off again and... we wipe for a third time. He instantly leaves. Replacement tank wasn't amazing but he at least held aggro (most) of the time. Replacement tank also kind of... autoran into the boss room door straight past the 3 enemies that cast tornado. I was tanking them for a good 6-7 seconds before he stopped autorunning into the door.

Maybe this is why I primarily play healers and tanks because I can at least cover two jobs some people evidently cannot in higher end dungeons.

Now I've got Frank Sinatra in my head singing, "Yeet me to the moon, let me play with no aggro..."

I'd forgotten about this. Mesarthim's experience/phrasing was someone prophetic...

There are 47 days left until Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker early access.

[Avatre]

I'd forgotten about this. Mesarthim's experience/phrasing was someone prophetic...

There are 47 days left until Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker early access.

Funny thing is, most people think that will be the end of the not paying attention/D.I.L.I.G.A.F mindset....it will not. Mark my words, it will not be the end of the horror during lull times.

[Gemina]

If I'm in a bad mood, typically I just keep things to myself rather than type in chat out of anger since the most mistakes and regrets happen when people speak when they're angry. Leveling roulette is a matter of you just get what you get, even if it's a dungeon that sucks; which I agree with you... Totorak is awful due to how slow the dungeon could be if either the tank or the healer is inexperienced.

I also respect you for realizing that your behavior certainly wasn't the best during it. Not a lot of people nowadays aren't willing to call themselves out for less than stellar behavior and more often that not blame other people for their mistakes. From here all it takes is to probably try and work on some self-restraint, but I do hope you get some better experiences from now on though and pleasant days as well.

Thank you. I know I need to be willing to accept to run whatever a roulette throws at me before queuing. I won't pretend I was when I clearly wasn't in this case, and I do appreciate you pointing that out. My hindsight is pretty good, but that self restraint can be difficult, and it is embarrassing to admit that I am not the best at handling my own emotions. I know it's ok to get angry. We all do. I just really need to work on not letting it take control of my actions.

But one point i did want to make. You were wrong about limits. Its only in alliance raids that engaging the next boss causes the bar to reset. Of course, they were being dumb too. You dont use a ranged/caster limit to pull a dungeon boss(though this IS a legit strategy for an alliance boss since the limit-pull means the old bar is used up before the fight-start resets it). If you have a ranged/caster, then they should use their limit to burn down one of the trash pulls on the way TO the dungeon boss. If no ranged/caster, then a melee should typically limit the 2nd boss, as fighting the final boss will be enough to give you one bar to use on the final boss and the 2 bar limit is never needed. Of course all of that limit-theory assumes a normal-ish dungeon, and Maws does just kinda suck.

I know I was wrong about that. And I would have been fine with being corrected about it during the instance as well. I don't even think time was the tank's argument, as he was clearly not concerned at all with the time it was taking to complete that dungeon. I was the one making it an issue about time, and just used it as an excuse to go into chimp mode and rip his face off. It was how he said it when he mentioned, "We could have used an LB if SOMEONE...", and right there...full on Bill Burr.

I guess I wanted to bring this up because we usually get the perspective of the peeps on the receiving end of crappy players or gameplay, and so I wanted to provide the perspective of one of those crappy players. Going forward, I will definitely try to exhibit better demeanor.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Funny thing is, most people think that will be the end of the not paying attention/D.I.L.I.G.A.F mindset....it will not. Mark my words, it will not be the end of the horror during lull times.

Well they could go an add that instant death mechanic to all the solo MSQ duties in Endwalker or just all of them period, they use in the Bozja instance where you get hit by 2 dodgeable mechanic AoEs in a short amount of time you instantly splat regardless of the damage it actually does... >.>

Then we can see the same couple dozen people complain daily about the game being too hard while naming off every condition they can find in web md as an excuse for not learning how to play the game.

[Avatre]

Well they could go an add that instant death mechanic to all the solo MSQ duties in Endwalker or just all of them period, they use in the Bozja instance where you get hit by 2 dodgeable mechanic AoEs in a short amount of time you instantly splat regardless of the damage it actually does... >.>

Then we can see the same couple dozen people complain daily about the game being too hard while naming off every condition they can find in web md as an excuse for not learning how to play the game.

The ones who would do that are already doing that. While it would be great to force people to actually learn mechanics, and make them actually pay attention, SE won't ever do that outside of optional content due to how accessible they want the game to be.

[RitsukoSonoda]

The ones who would do that are already doing that. While it would be great to force people to actually learn mechanics, and make them actually pay attention, SE won't ever do that outside of optional content due to how accessible they want the game to be.

The thing they need to realize is that the people they're appeasing with this easy mode push enough buttons to avoid getting kicked for inactivity and ignore everything else MSQ and to an extend also 4player duties is that these players then want the toys in the optional content as well and just end up hindering everyone else trying to do that content. Like most single player games they should have been slowly pushing players to get better to progress. The only execption that comes to mind in regards to RPGs are the Open world ones where players that wander off and start doing all the side quests often end up overleveled and geared by the time they come back to the game's main story and faceroll the whole thing while sipping a cup of tea and baking a souffle. The nerfs and changes they made for this "ease of access" has pretty much done nothing but create lines causing various divides in the player base resulting in a number of the player created problems in game and constant arguments on this forum.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Just want to give apologies to anyone getting my alt as a tank in their level 80 content. I'm still learning PLD and for whatever reason, it's scrambling my brain in a manner not even DRK first did when I boosted it.

I swear I consistently screw up the rotation no matter how many times I practice it, because as soon as mechanics happen my focus for the rotation just goes right out the window. ;_;

[Asari5]

Just want to give apologies to anyone getting my alt as a tank in their level 80 content. I'm still learning PLD and for whatever reason, it's scrambling my brain in a manner not even DRK first did when I boosted it.

I swear I consistently screw up the rotation no matter how many times I practice it, because as soon as mechanics happen my focus for the rotation just goes right out the window. ;_;

how about a target dummy?