Message to the 1 gil undercutters

[DontReadThis]

Nobody can stop me from undercutting by 1 gil. I do it everyone. Nobody is self, not even myself. Sometimes I don't realize the lowest price is my other retainer and I end up undercutting myself!

[Ashliet]

I wish people more regularly undercut by 1 gil. In my expierence people undercuts by hundreds and then thousands and then a 10k item has suddenly dropped to to 250g and the one moment it goes back up it goes right back down.

The MB is a frustrating place.

[DPZ2]

The MB is a frustrating place.

Welcome to a world where players who do not have automated means to offer items on the Market Board do not have a disadvantage.

Welcome to a world where many players who add items only look at the default vendor price for items they post.

Welcome to a world where the majority of players aren't trying to charge 2,000 gil for an item that sells for 1000 gil at a vendor.

Welcome to a world where the fewer dedicated players can gauge not only the current prices but also look at the historical data for the item in order to reach a realistic price.

Welcome to a world where speculators are discouraged because someone can always sell an item for less. Again and again.

Welcome to Eorzea.

-- a member of the "If it'll sell for 10x more than the vendor price and I need the gil today, lets just get this out of inventory" crowd. Which is most of us.

[Liam_Harper]

I don't think most people realize the majority of their items are easy to acquire and almost worthless. I see people talk about how their "100k item crashed to 10k because of filthy undercutters", but if any item can crash to 10% of the average selling price, it was never worth 100k. The market history doesn't matter. If you sold a few for 100k you got lucky that it took a while before other people realized there was a market to fill. You're never entitled to 100k.
If an item is worth 100k, it will consistently sell for that. A few heavy under-cutters will have no effect because demand will buy them out faster than they can supply. Simple as that.

As well as bots being rampant, almost everyone has a crafter now. I've seen 150k items I was selling for a few weeks drop to 20k and I don't mind one bit, because honestly I was able to spam that item effortlessly. It's worth 20k. I'm happy I got lucky for a bit.
Due to oversupply crashing prices, people are desperately searching for niche markets all the time. This creates massive price spikes, where players will discover a niche, kill it with oversupply, crash the market, give up because it's not profitable and move to another item, which then causes supply to drop and the market becomes a niche again until players return to it. This creates a cycle and is the reason why sometimes it feels no matter what you try to sell, the price crashes.

The markets are perfectly fine. Everything's just too easy to get or make.

[Catwho]

If you're undercutting things by 1 gil and it's still not selling, it means you're in a saturated market. Stop farming that or stop making that.

[Illmaeran]

The market history doesn't matter. If you sold a few for 100k you got lucky that it took a while before other people realized there was a market to fill. You're never entitled to 100k.

What's killing me with "WTF, REALLY?!" are people selling small bunches (3-5, probably from retainers) of Coffee Biscuits for 100-200 gil per. The profit margin on those things is so high that I have no idea why they put them on the MB other than they have no idea what their actual value is and because canny people buy them up right away to turn in for leves.

[Jojoya]

If you're undercutting things by 1 gil and it's still not selling, it means you're in a saturated market. Stop farming that or stop making that.

A lot of the 1 gil undercuts I see are items coming from quick ventures. Players can't control what they get.

Really looking forward to Endwalker's release since the loot tables should be changing then. In the meantime, my alts are leveling Desynthesis at a decent profit thanks to the flood of housing items.

What's killing me with "WTF, REALLY?!" are people selling small bunches (3-5, probably from retainers) of Coffee Biscuits for 100-200 gil per. The profit margin on those things is so high that I have no idea why they put them on the MB other than they have no idea what their actual value is and because canny people buy them up right away to turn in for leves.

One of the custom delivery quests rewards 3 Coffee Biscuits so those small stacks are probably coming from that (I've never gotten them from a retainer venture). If the player hasn't leveled CUL to 78, they can't do the leve for the 2k gil so the MB ends up being the place to sell.