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  1. #141
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    I think Age of Conan did dungeons really well. Niche MMORPG from smaller "indie" company.

    Khitai expansion (sadly the first and also the final one) offered various of dungeons with dynamic normal and hard mode triggers on the bosses. You could perform specific tasks to activate the optional hard mode which by the way gave better rewards for those deserving them after clearing the boss. You could still solo farm the hard mode tokens but it literally takes forever, at least it did when i played. Few tokens per day and item costs 500 tokens. Good push to learn the hard mode I'd say. Dungeons weren't so scripted so you could clear them with knowledge and gameplay experience. Depending on the class of course.
    It's a cool system, and you'll see it in tab-target MMOs from time to time (even WoW has a fair few examples), but I'm not so sure we could pull it off here. In matchmade content, people here expect to enter what they queued for -- not enter, then have to decide what they can do (normal or hard), what they want to do (normal or hard), and then finally go through either of two different experiences.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 10-01-2021 at 02:58 PM.

  2. #142
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    Tabmow's Avatar
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    Myamoto Musashi
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    Ravana
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    so sick of the asmongold simps posting their rubbish. please,just go away. let us enjoy our game without your lord and savior interfering.
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  3. #143
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    Nyarlha Moonstalker
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    If the usual suspects keep crying in every thread about wanting harder dungeons, I guess I'll keep reposting YoshiP's interview from May.

    Naoki Yoshida: I’d like to refrain from giving away too many specifics at this time, but I think the chances of doing large-scale, challenging content is greater than creating high-difficulty content meant for smaller groups. It’s not that we are unable to create high-difficulty content for small groups, but currently I am a bit more hesitant with that direction overall.

    In the case of a four-player high-difficulty dungeon, there is much less room for players to work with when it comes to party deaths or mistakes. If even a single party member is incapacitated or makes a mistake, it will invariably lead to a wipe, with not much leeway to save the run or come up with a creative solution. Another major reason is because our community continues to grow—naturally this is bringing in many casual players, and I believe that when looking at the bigger pictures, large-scale content will be easier for all players to get into.

    If anything, one possibility might be high-difficulty floor(s) of the Deep Dungeon series… but please stay tuned for future announcements!
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  4. #144
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    If the usual suspects keep crying in every thread about wanting harder dungeons, I guess I'll keep reposting YoshiP's interview from May.
    People either forget what Yohi-P says, or they ignore it like it never happened and keep pushing for these things.
    That or there is legit people who never heard his stance.
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  5. #145
    Player WoW's Avatar
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    Marco Polo
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    People either forget what Yohi-P says, or they ignore it like it never happened and keep pushing for these things.
    That or there is legit people who never heard his stance.
    Well, we learned that Yoshi P does the opposite of what he says. He said personal housings would be more affordable and separate from FC house, but they're not. He said no male viera and female hrothgar and now we will see them soon. No door bosses for raids this expansion (not that I'm against that rofl) and we got one for E12s. BLU would be a solo content for fun, and now it's one of the best raiding content (Glad he did). And the list goes on.

    By that logic, we are getting harder 4 men content!! We just need the raiding community to speak much louder about it. And thanks to Asmongold and the other fellow hardcore raiders that joined, the dream will be a reality!
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    Last edited by WoW; 10-01-2021 at 06:45 PM.

  6. #146
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WoW View Post
    Well, we learned that Yoshi P does the opposite of what he says. He said personal housings would be more affordable and separate from FC house, but they're not. He said no male viera and female hrothgar and now we will see them soon. No door bosses for raids this expansion (not that I'm against that rofl) and we got one for E12s. BLU would be a solo content for fun, and now it's one of the best raiding content (Glad he did). And the list goes on.

    By that logic, we are getting harder 4 men content!! We just need the raiding community to speak much louder about it. And thanks to Asmongold and the other fellow hardcore raiders that joined, the dream will be a reality!
    Oh damn, by that logic FF14 classic is right around the corner. Lets go!
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  7. #147
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    Jep. I guess we will see FF14 1.13 soon.

    Cheers
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabmow View Post
    so sick of the asmongold simps posting their rubbish. please,just go away. let us enjoy our game without your lord and savior interfering.
    It's like when doing search results on Youtube and seeing all of those channels that simply repost his videos.

    Quote Originally Posted by WoW View Post
    And thanks to Asmongold and the other fellow hardcore raiders that joined, the dream will be a reality!
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    Last edited by Poporito_Popoto; 10-01-2021 at 08:16 PM.

  9. #149
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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I mean... if they'll invite Mr. Happy and Sly why not Asmon... (just joking)
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  10. #150
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    he's here because thats where the money is. WoW was drying up.

    its nice he is enjoying the game, but after trashing it for YEARS, I dont consider him a saviour of anything except his bank account.

    he harmed the game more than he has helped it, and yet it still went on without him, and with him bashing it to his cult.

    him being invited is more of an insult to the people who have been here and supported the game than a blessing.

    he came here for money, they invited him as a PR move... thats all...
    I'm confused, are we discussing MPK or Asmongold?

    I don't personally think Asmongold joined the game cause wow is dying or so, he like most streamers want to broaden their scope and people been asking him to test FF for years and seeing how many in his own main game (wow) jumps ship he felt more than likely inclined to do it too.

    Call it chasing money if you want or not, I think he was doing just fine with his own community with bits and donations, since people watch him for him and not what he plays.

    But many in this community likes to bash on the guy cause they have a biast or hatred for the him for some reason (not saying you do Kes13a, just quoting your reply).

    Him getting invited to media tour is purely a PR move on SE after seeing his popularity, 100% but calling it an insult to other people I think is reaching.

    What I find amusing is so many people on this forums and other social media think people can't change opinion on a game when they makes the decision to play it. "x hated it for years and now he joined MY game!" kind of mentality.

    "he won't last past Lv20"
    "he will quit before ARR MSQ is done"
    "he will skip"
    "he can't beat x synced, no echo"

    List goes on.
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    Last edited by Sotaris; 10-01-2021 at 08:59 PM.

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